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How's that work then ?

I meant 255 ! I got 7+10x15 = 255

285 ?

I don't think he's done much at Bristol City, Maybe he was a bad fit there as well.

That's more or less what I was told.

That's a bit harsh. What were the other ten doing to get the game back in the remaining 50 minute that were left ? He wouldn't have been the only one that dropped a bollock on Saturday.

All that can be true Chaddy but that doesn't mean the Hoyle guy isn't trying to re-coup some " loans " . If you're a manager and the board are wanting to pick the team it's time to go. There's a bloke I know who drinks in the same pub as me. He's really well in at Huddersfield, unfortunately I haven't seen him for months because he's an asthmatic and he's isolating. When I see him again I'll get the full story.

Mm, I read that also. At least it sounds like he has a plan and sticks to it.

Yes, that's the name I was told. He's " put " between £50 and £60 million into the club from what I hear. If he want's all of that back I can see why ambitious managers might want to try their luck somewhere else. That could be why their number 1 prospect is up for sale.

I heard that the guy who's been chucking money at the club over the last few seasons has decided that it wasn't a gift after all but a loan and he wants his money back. Maybe his business is struggling ? There's going to be a lot of that in the future.

I'd be happy if it was the same player that we had pre-injury but it may not be. It's a gamble we shouldn't have to take.

I've played there now and again. When you're up against a giant and the ball keeps coming to you at head high there's nothing worse. It's a very lonely place when the service is poor. Get the ball on the ground in the channels were you can get after the big lads in a foot race like we used to do when we had Bellamy or Andy Cole or Jansen. Most centre halves are slow on the turn as Maguire proved last night. That and get the ball coming in from the wing so you can get away from your marker. We don't do either of those moves enough.

He definitely needs to show the same level of aggression he showed scoring the goal on Saturday more often. You've got to be prepared to get hurt now and again. He's got the size.

If you've played up front yourself you'll know that without good service it's an arse kicking job. Not many strikers thrive without it. You need balls you can attack, balls that play to your strengths not your weaknesses. I think we've become used to the Dack-Graham method and we're finding the new method hard going in terms of creating good chances.

I'm not so sure about Cunningham. You don't normally become a better player after injuries like that. We'll already have one coming back in Dack, I'm not sure I'd want two potential liabilities. Is he the only left back on the planet ? Is our European scout self isolating in his bedroom ?

Ossy Ardiles wasn't much bigger than a jockey but he could run the show all day long. Size helps but it doesn't trump ability if you have plenty of it.

That was a ball defenders hate. It took out the goalkeeper and the centre halves and left the full back isolated.

I'm afraid I agree with you.

Or the slow but clever " Wagstaffe " type of winger who never beat you once but ran the game by playing just outside of your zone. if you went deep to mark him you found the centre forward running into the space you'd just left.

Even at top level it can work. The Giroud goal tonight is a classic example. The Chelsea full back gets to the bye line and puts in a low teasing cross. Giroud nips in from behind the centre half, who doesn't see him coming, to get to the ball first and flicks the ball goalwards. De Gea has no real reaction time because the play is so close and before he can react the ball is over the line and into the net.

She said " What a terrific film, I've not seen a film as good as that for years ",

That's the style today. As you suggest it can be wasteful, especially if your wide players can't cross a ball. The top Prem teams prefer a possession based game because they're up against a better class of big defender by and large. I still think getting the ball out wide can be effective at our level.

That's what happens when you get up the side of teams. A deep cross from wide, left full back gets turned around watching play, Gallagher comes steaming in out of sight and gets the drop on the defender to head a good goal. You can play in front of teams all day long and not much happens, get their back four turned around and it's another story all together. Of course we'd usually prefer to play blokes out there who can't cross a ball or beat a full back with the ball at their feet so we don't create many chances like that one.

Therein lies the fly in our ointment. Our recruitment is mediocre at best. Certainly it's not in Brentford's class.

I agree with your remarks regarding the cost of ready made players but £12 million would have got us a top striker and a very good centre half.