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But be aware that there could be cancellations - they are still happening with Northern Trains.

To put this into context Montserrat has a population of 4,383 on the one third of the island that is still inhabitable after the 1995 earthquake. No doubt there’s a somewhat bigger diaspora of people who left after the Earhart it’s still tiny.

There was just a moment there when I thought it was me in the crowd between them....

My early life and Tony's seemed to coincide a lot. Being brought up in Rufford and at school in Ormskirk, I used to watch Southport (where I was born) with schoolmates quite a bit when at school, despite being a Rovers fan through family connections. We would usually see Southport play at home on a Friday night and then I would be at Ewood for home games and somewhere else locally if they were away. I probably saw more of Tony Field at Southport than anywhere, as his move to Rovers coincided with me moving to Sheffield for university. I did then see him play at Bramall Lane a few times between 1974 and 1976. My wife's brother lived in New York in the late 70s with his American wife so we went over a couple of times and on one of those I saw both Tony Field and Pele play together for the Cosmos. (I had already seen Pele play for Santos against Sheffield Wednesday in a friendly game on a Wednesday afternoon because of the 3 day week and no power for floodlights). Anyway, this is now spectacularly off piste on the Adam Wharton thread........

It was the 66/67 season. I saw Tony play for 4 different clubs - Southport, Rovers, Sheffield United and New York Cosmos but not Barrow.

No they aren’t. They spent some years in Division 3 (now league 1) in the 60s. I can remember seeing them at that level.

I know it wasn't. The point I was making is that's what he gave, not anything to do with Hedges and the defender coming together.

On a replay the ref can clearly be seen raising his hand and saying “offside”.

Dolan was onside by a yard or two - he burst past the defenders when Travis played the ball through. It was Hedges who was given offside - he wasn't but it was fairly close.

The best set I've ever seen in 14 Glastonbury festivals was Africa Express in 2007, curated by Damon Albarn.

The police know that plenty will use the trains and will be meeting all the possible trains on the morning at either Burnley Barracks or Manchester Road.

Both clubs and the police want as many fans as possible to use the coaches. I'd agree with arbitro.

Pretty surprising to see our gate was higher than North End last night. Assuming Sheffield United filled ether end it would mean Rover shad more home fans on than PNE despite their cheap pricing. Also Ryan Lowe is building up a fine record - it's now 6 losses in a row with no goals scored.

I was concerned when we took off Gueye, Rankin-Costello and Hedges and brought 3 dwarves on, especially given Derby’s reputation for set pieces and the fact they were winning plenty of corners. Then straightaway Derby equalised from a corner. But then the 3 dwarves all scored inside 12 minutes so what do I know.

They were wrong then. It was clearly Travis, as it was at the ground. Some logistics firm sponsoring it. Presumably he will a free spreadsheet.

I spend some time telling people how much nicer an EV is to drive than an ICE car but it seems that few believe me. Disregarding all the environmental arguments they are just great to drive. On longevity I have seen nothing to concern me at all in the last 7 years. The Zoe we had for 6 years had no battery depletion at all. There's no sign of it on the MG5 either after 14 months - in fact the last 3 times it's been charged to 100% we have got the highest range we have ever had. As a general rule anxiety about range is for most people greatly overblown. It is clearly an issue for bluebruce given the market he is by necessity buying in and therefore looking at older second hand EVs with what is now dated technology. Anyone able to get into a new or fairly new EV need have no real worries about undertaking long journeys. I don't in general drive a lot of long journeys these days but in the last 6 weeks or so I've driven to Glastonbury, Newquay and Maidenhead and next week I'm off to Crickhowell. In the 3 journeys I've done we needed to use public chargers a number of times but every time the car has charged up enough before we were ready after a short break, 20 minutes max.

bluebruce - have you considered getting a new EV on a lease deal? It may well be that the money is too much for you but there are deals for some of the newer cheaper EVs at fairly modest monthly payments and the deposit can be as low as 1 month. I haven't looked at any of these in detail as that wasn't the market I was in but on the surface the numbers seem to have come down a lot in the last 12 months. I imagine that's due to the slowdown in sales of EVs to private buyers.

I just use the ZapMap app. I think there is the ability in the car's satnav for it to direct you to the nearest charger but I never used it - I preferred to make my own decision. I guess there might also be an issue of whether the information in the car is up to date which is important given the constant change. I think your range estimates might be a bit pessimistic but perhaps that's wise in your situation. I probably would say that you would get better than 130 miles from a 180 miles full battery, but that also depends on your driving style. Just like ICE cars the faster you drive the faster the fuel disappears.

One Zoe must have been a 2017 as we sold it last September after 6 years. I can't remember the exact mileage but less than the one you're looking at - maybe 25K? It's certainly true that the battery had not lost any range when we sold it, but based on the dealer's numbers rather than any manufacturer claims. It was a second car for most of its time with us but for about 6 months it was our only car when my son had his car nicked and he borrowed mine. So mostly it was used for local journeys (up to 50 miles from home). A couple of times we took it down to East London and had to charge on the way. The hour I quoted was based on getting enough power into the car to complete the journey, so was probably to c80%. In any event you should not charge an EV beyond 80% in faster public chargers for two reasons. One, I believe, is that it could do long term damage to the battery to regularly charge up to 100& on fast chargers. The second is that chargers slow down their charge as they get above 80% so it will take longer. In any case, remember that when public charging, you just need to put in enough to get home, both for speed and economy so apart from journeys like bringing it up from Dagenham time is less of an issue. Have a look on ZapMap for chargers near your Mum! Octopus do have good EV charging rates but you need to look at the whole package, for your other energy needs as well. The article gives you a good starting point.

Right bluebruce - back now from a heavy family weekend in the south east - I wasn't too far from Dagenham this afternoon! Ideally with a Renault Zoe you would want one of the newer ones that have a CCS charger. The Zoe that we we had was one of the early ones that only had a Type 2 charger, which meant that you could not do a rapid charge. Not a problem when home charging, when it can easily be charged overnight but a bit of a pain when for example a drive to London meant a stop for an hour to charge. In contrast today we have driven back in our MG5 from Maidstone to Preston - 260 miles with one stop at Corley services for a 20 minute charge. The car was ready before we had time for the toilet and to eat a sandwich meal deal. I suspect though that you might have a Zoe with just a type 2 charger there though. It's fine as long as you are aware of the limitation. On battery range I think your salesman has it about right, certainly for an early Zoe. I would say that the best we ever got from ours was about 210-220 miles and that was only in high Summer. In mid winter it could be down to 130-140. Average around 160-180. Stated ranges are always quite a bit higher than real world experience. We never got anything like 250 from the start. I'm not sure that you're right about further battery degradation. We certainly had none in 6 years of owning the Zoe from new, doing probably less mileage than you will. All the evidence I've seen seems to suggest that battery range is holding up better than expected at first. I tried to put our Zoe through We Buy Any Car - they offered me £3K and I sold it for £6.7K privately! Obviously they will buy any car, but often will only offer peanuts. So, overall I would not be concerned about the battery and if you can live with those numbers you'll be fine. The dealer does sound a bit odd - I don't know if there is anywhere that you can check previous ownership and whether it's been in a serious accident? From your previous posts I have some comments. Firstly bear in mind that electric cars will be subject to vehicle excise duty ("road tax") from next April and at the moment it doesn't seem that there will be a discounted rate for EVs. That might change with the new Labour government but no promises. More positively you might want to look at energy providers who offer cheap charging rates for EVs. Have a look at this article - https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/ev-energy-tariffs/. I'm with Ecotricity and get a rate of 8p per kwh between 1am and 6am, so my home charging is dirt cheap. Ecotricity won't be the cheapest overall - I'm with them for environmental reasons as all their fuel is renewable but charge a bit more than other companies during the day. The car will also be definitely be cheaper to service but probably more to insure. Hope this helps but come back with any more questions. I'm around all this week. I thought about doing this as a pm but thought that the general discussion might be helpful to others too.

Blue Bruce - as we have had electric cars for 7 years and a Zoe for 6 of them I have some comments for you but no time right now to write them. I will post again in the next couple of days.

End of contract. He was on loan at West Brom from last January.

As I said in the post I wasn’t at the meeting so I’ve no idea what stage they are at.

That’s a bit of a “how long is a piece of string” question. I used to take minutes of meetings as part of my job and many of those were somewhat more contentious than these, so that experience helps. But it can take the best part of a day and because I might have other things to do that could last over a few days. At other times I might be able to finish in a few hours. Hence my comment above that I can’t predict exactly when a given set of minutes can be completed and published.

The minutes come out anything from a couple of days after the meeting up to two weeks later. Firstly it depends on how quickly I can write them. I try to be as quick as I can but often life gets in the way. Then the attendees from the club (and there have been quite a few recently) get to check them for any errors or clarifications. This can take a while especially in close season when holidays intervene. Then I give Forum members a day or so to do the same on the final version before they get published on the club website. I will pre-empt any questions about what gets changed by saying that amendments by the club tend to be corrections of fact, amendment of typos etc rather than complete re-writes. One thing I can say about the current management team is that almost nothing of consequence is changed from my initial words. There is hardly anything changed in comparison to John Williams’ days when he would take out whole chunks that he decided he didn’t want to make public. I wasn’t at the meeting last night so I can’t comment on this set of minutes. Back to enjoying a gorgeous day on a Cornish beach.