The Farington site is not intended as a replacement for the out grounds, although I guess there might be an odd game there. But it will of course be an out ground itself anyway.

Lies, damned lies and statistics. It is completely pointless trying to analyse sales based on arbitrary political boundaries. For Preston you can't ignore adding South Ribble's population on to Preston's. That makes a total of c260K, actually a lot closer to JohnD's first attempt. But all the other numbers need reviewing as well, hence the analysis is pointless.

There seems to be a spelling mistake on that website. An extra r in the first word.

Lancashire v Worcestershire today at Blackpool. Excellent game in glorious weather.

The presentation should now be available on the website as a link from the minutes.

You’re right, it was, .The thread got seriously off track for a while.

I’ve been taking minutes of meetings for more than 30 years, many of them a damn sight more difficult and contentious than these and never have I written down everything that was said.

I explained some time last week how I write the minutes and why they are not a verbatim record of what everyone says. That would be a) impossible for me to do unless I recorded the meeting and then took days to write it all up and b) fantastically tedious to read. it was either in this thread on the ST one.

I should have done it but forgot. I will get it done but the technology is currently challenging me on my iPad in London. I will post when I’ve sorted it but it will probably be when I get back home on Tuesday.

Firstly I think I should ask Rich Sharpe for a fee for that article. All he has done is pick out some points from the minutes I wrote and made an article out of it. Unfortunately Rich missed out an important proviso when he quoted the numbers. The 849 is the number of fans who took out a fill ST last season who have not renewed AND are still contactable from the club database. The rest the club cannot contact directly. They have either died, removed themselves from the database or have not given the club approval to be contacted, so they can’t. Obviously they can still do general advertising but they can’t be sent anything directly or be called. The 7.300 figure was as at last Wednesday. I had some email correspondence with Fraser Read re the numbers after the meeting and he gave me an updated number.

They should be on the club website tomorrow. They have been agreed with the club and have been circulated to Forum members this morning. I always do this in case anyone has any issues with them. I have asked the club to release them tomorrow.

Suffolk has a population of 760,000 and one league team. Lancashire has a population of 1.495m, so slightly under twice as many and 7 league teams.

Isn't there usually a close down for a few days whilst any seat moves are arranged?

Today's i newspaper has an article about what a mess Leeds are in now. Their American investors were due to pay £220m for Radrizzani's 56% share to take control in the Summer. That would value Leeds at £420m, but the paper suggests that they are probably only worth £170m with relegation. It's not clear whether Radrizzani would be willing to take that hit to get out. He might decide to stay and hope that they get promoted quickly whilst they still have parachute payments.

Here's an exclusive goozburger - they haven't!

I'm not sure Monday is very traditional. The last two before yesterday have been on Saturday and Sunday.

Next Friday will be 10 days, unless you are counting Tuesday23rd. Given we only finished the meeting about 8.30.pm, that’s a bit harsh.

I’m glad you’re not doing the numbers Rigger - the meeting was only on Tuesday. I finished them yesterday, mainly because I went to the cricket on Thursday.

It seems perfectly logical to me. They put Premier League first, then Scotland, then Women's Super League and then EFL with Wales and Ireland later. Women's Championship comes after mens EFL. Then after that European leagues. You might not agree with having the top women's league ahead of the EFL but I can see the logic in it.

There will be some up to date numbers in the Fans Forum minutes, which should be out next week.

It may be that I am guilty from time to time of not fully expressing the whole discussion, but there is a danger that could end up in pages and pages of minutes which not many would read. By necessity a set of minutes is just a summary of what discussion takes place at a meeting rather than a verbatim record. Typically I tend to end up with points raised by Forum members and the final comments by the club in response. I guess that does make them look like we ask a question and the club responds, but mostly it doesn't happen like that in reality. The club do see my draft minutes and often make some small changes but the vast majority of the changes they make are entirely sensible, often my typos. I can only think of a couple of changes that I have queried and we have easily reached a compromise. And they were mostly in the John Williams/Tom Finn era. We will also occasionally talk about a subject which the club asks not be minuted - there was one on Tuesday. Again that's fairly rare now but was rife whenever John Williams came. Anyway, none of this has much to do with Gregg Broughton, so any follow-up would be better on the FF thread.

Err… It consults? The Forum is a group of fans with whom the club consults on issues of interest to the fans. We have no right to force the club to do anything, but we hope to get our points across. Often fans look at the minutes and see statements that the club makes and seem to assume that somehow it’s an agreed position, when usually it’s just the club’s response to a question.

That seems pretty uncalled for as well Rev, for what I intended as a joke. I keep plugging away trying to get over fans’ views and improving things as and when we can. It’s only a consultative forum, not a negotiating one, which quite a few on here don’t seem to grasp.

I should have them over to the club tomorrow. Given it's a Bank Holiday weekend I'm guessing later next week.

Isn’t that the whole raison d’etre for the Forum?