So we keep playing him until he is what 25 or 30? At what stage does he become experienced? I'd say 2.5 seasons should be enough

Young as in terms of first team experience.

Nyambe can't be classed as a young anymore he has been in and out of the first team for many a season. Rothwell was a first teamer at another club so I wouldn't say he was one of the inexperienced players. The others gave glimpses but only that. It does not prove anything. We've had many a young player do this but never mount to much. time will tell.

Personally think Nyambe would benefit playing as the right side defender in a system that Shef Utd. employ. Would need a very experienced leader who will bark orders to him.

Really? The younger players showed they could do better? I'll give you Rothwell and Travis, the rest weren't given enough time to prove or disprove the second statement

Wonder why Mimms never got another gig?

......hopefully. Or we were too low down the food chain for the bigwigs of SEM to be interested

Of course youre right but selection has to be transparent. Selecting one person over another on just because you dont like a person's agent alone will be 's against the law if proved. It is like you cannot select a person for a job because you dont like the colour of the other applicant's hair.

There will always be the link whilst Venky's are around....no avoiding that......damage already done

So it could be that in theory that not only we don't deal with SEM, we could have to not deal with upto 150 other agents? If we know there connections? How does that get policed? Also not employing soemone because of their agent does that break freedom of employment laws?

On that then I would also suggest to avoid any future stench then we also impose a self imposed ban on the agency that Mowbray and team belong to. This would avoid suggestions that we are connected to that agency. I'd agree with you about the money owed if it was my money but that is Venky's choice as it is their money. If money is owed then they also need to recover it by usual channels. If future deals involve SEM then I'd only go ahead once they have been heavily scrutunised by independent agencies so that both parties are clear of any stench. It wont happen I know.

Is he the only one? If a player we want is SEM do we avoid? Is there links between the club, agents and players signing like it was 'alleged' before? One player I would suggest is manageable and although not great it is not a plague that infected us previously

This season Norwich have employed a high press which has allowed their full backs to overlap but next season the likes of Sterling will have a field day playing in behind the full backs. There were times last night when Bell and Bennett were playing as wingers there were that much space but what should up was their in ability to do anything with the ball. Usually when their names were mentioned on the ball the next name mentioned was a Norwich one. Higginbottom comentating on Sky was going on about what Bereton brought to the team as sub but you need someone quick to run the channels from centre. Armstrong is wasted on the wing if we are going to play this he needs to be more central to stretch the central defenders and pull them out of position. We musy be only team that field field 4 wingers in Bennett, Conway, Chapman and Rothwell and still play a player out of position in a wide position

what by? by playing the one dimensional ball to Bereton instead? D. Lenihan needs the memo as several times he tried it on Saturday and it didn't work

Also Ossie Ardiles

Yes you're right. One way next season, on the presumption Dack goes, is to go 3 at the back, play with wing backs with Rothwell and Armstrong narrow playing off Graham. Dack adds to the problem as I can't see him playing like that.

The Leeds performance also showed how he can be taken out of the game when Leeds changed tactics and fullbacks.

Actually think the old inside left or right would suit him better, exploiting the space between centre half and full back. such as the vast space left between Mulgrew and Williams/Bell which regularly gets exploited by other teams.

Not on the wing though!

Is that not a confidence thing? Playing more centrally in Janurary he became more instictive. Since he has been shunted out wide again he has to think more about the game and his confidence drops again causing that extra split second of indecisivness. Another case in point of Mowbray not playing to a player's strengths

Sorry you're right but still Mowbray started with Chapman, Dack and Graham up front against Pompey and we played some great football then against Wigan he dropped Chapman and Graham opting to play Antonnson up front on his own. At Oldham, Antonnson played up front as well and we all so how effective that was. The fact remains Mowbray worries too much about the opposition rather than concentrate on his own team's strengths

I said at the time we won promotion despite Mowbray but not because of him! I still cannot forget that performance at Oldham last season where the week before we hammered Pompey 3-0 at Ewood then Mowbray changed the team because he was afraid of Oldham's right back and centre forward. It showed all we need to know!

So did Viv Busby.

He doesn't read the game though and its hard to mop up your own mistakes.

Yes a decent manager is essential on the training pitch but once the game is underway you need a leader. Mulgrew isn't it. Every successful team has one leader at the back. One who can organise. Historically if we go back, Kevin Moran made Colin Hendry into a better player by the fact he organised and had the ability to read the game and mop up the mistakes. Berg on his return was another case in point.