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Fair point. He has been well supported by fans though and you might have thought that would have spurred him on a bit.

What fan pressure?

Triumph of hope over experience. Clutching at straws. You want to believe it.

Sorry--he hasn't imo.

Backwards and sideways?!!

We can fix that!

I'll never understand the £7M bit. Its not as if we were having to fight off competition. I don't think Mowbray's got the hang of it----we bid low when others are interested and high when nobody else is bidding!

I don't agree with that. Whatever Dack offers in midfield could never make up for our defensive failings. As for Evans he seldom has a run of good games but he is injured a lot.

The key word in your sentence is "if"! We can always judge him after one more season but then that = Infinity eventually.

Those are the usual niceties which managers extend to one another.

Its not Championship material!

He wasn't useless.

We want the manager and his associates to do their jobs like the fans do theirs every day, on way less pay. The frustration comes because they are not doing theirs and we know the club will suffer as a result.

Well of course you are quite right and I totally agree with you that Mowbray is not the worst manager we've had!

I suspect Burnley fans would like TM to continue indefinitely! (Just as I'd like Dyche to decide to spend more time with his family!)

Tbf you're showing that one club is having similar problems and you've cited them before.

Who did?

Because you were trying to use an illegitimate point to discredit what I was saying. But I'm pleased that you agree the comparison reflects badly on Mowbray.

Quite right. The thread was about clubs who have got promotion, or in Btrentford's case just missed out, while spending less than we have. Which, I contend, means they are better managed and reflects badly on Mowbray that he's never even got near top 6.

So then, its about the quality of the manager which is what I was on about from the start!

We can't afford to spend £25M because Mowbray would turn it into £5M.

Terribly loaded comparison, as we've come to expect!

I've never heard £4M on Raya but they've spent better than we did eh? £15M on 3 strikers and nix on defence!

Well that's 3 then! But what about Josh King and Shane Duffy? Players sold while Bowyer was manager went for £16M (including £nil for King) and we paid out a total of £2M to bring players in! In his 2 full seasons as manager we finished 8th and 9th. Needless to say Mowbray has never achieved this. Some of our current players have been found insufficient for Championship level too haven't they despite costing the millions Bowyer never had?

Thank God for that in our case! We need a new manager and a new set-up. Chaddy harked back to Hughes'period, I'd like to see that! Didn't even pay £900000 for Samba did we?