We did at Morecambe when we played them and Stanley but they were both full games of 90 minutes. One memory of that day was the excellence of the Morecambe catering. Knowing fans would be there for around four hours they had a great choice including pasta.

I heard similar and for me it sums up the dysfunctional way we are run. The manager and CEO see real merit in bringing some money in for a player who they knew would leave for nothing only for that to be scuppered by Pasha who in turn advised the owners accordingly. Mowbray himself said he had two players lined up with the Rothwell money and who knows, that could have got us over the line. That's why I sincerely hope that Broughton is given his head with no interference otherwise I think the most promising thing to happen to us for years will end in tears.

I'm pretty sure they are exempt as it's not wages and transfer costs. If you remember Waggot bragged about a new Desso pitch being installed last summer at a cost of a few million which the owners reneged on leaving him red faced. As it wouldn't have impigned on P&S it threw the 'never refuse to sign a cheque' theory into serious doubt. Disclaimer - I'm not blaming Waggott for this 😃

How does a message board equate to a work place environment? Despite the dross we endured under Mowbray how often was the match day environment negative? A few boos and 'Mowbray sort it out' chants? for context this is a message board of which the vast majority of Rovers fans won't be aware of let alone the new manager.

Obviously we didn't but you said 'Even if we had got fees for the three of them, we would not have seen any of it for replacements.' like you knew we wouldn't have spent it. This implied you knew for sure.

So a few supporters being critical on a message board might end up with the new manager leaving? I actually know some of the 'doom mongers' who very rarely miss matches and support the team. It is what it says on the tin a message board.

How do you know this. Fact of opinion?

Could it be conceivable this season that Preston and Burnley will have sold more season tickets than what our average attendance will be?

Thanks, that's the one I couldn't remember.

I quite like the idea myself. It gives Rovers and Stanley a great opportunity to look at lots of players and formations, it's perfect for the players to have an hour of decent intensity given it's the first game and as spectators we get excellent value for money. Great thinking from JDT, can you imagine Mowbray coming up with something so novel. 😂😂

Particularly if you factor in the season ticket holders unavailability through work, holidays etc. For example I called to see my youngest brother yesterday and he said that due to pre booked holidays he is missing three home matches before the World Cup hiatus. I'd love to see the figures of everyone who uses their ticket 23 times against those who don't. I would desperately loved to have seen some imagination in this season's offers but 'twas ever this under this shower.

He actually used the word 'pitches' which implies to me that included Brockhall too.

It emerged at the end of last season, given the various offers that it worked out cheaper to pay for individual matches than to buy a season ticket on direct debit. There was also another fact about season tickets vs match tickets but I can't remember it.

They could well do but that is almost certainly the best way to regress. We could absorb a Garratt or Wharton into the match day squad but as regular starters? Even bringing players in from a league below is a huge risk using Pickering and Edun as a yardstick.. In my view we need Championship ready players to cover the three of them and that will cost.

We can debate the footballing merits of Lenihan, Nyambe and Rothwell until the cows come home and still not agree but what is irrefutable is that it's going to cost money, a considerable amount of money even if we only bring in players of a similar ilk. I haven't a clue what the budget afforded to Tomasson is but I really do think that replacing those three will considerably eat into it. That is where this while saga is crazy to me.

It also looks to me like they are two different types of material.

Have you seen anything that has changed to allow anybody at Ewood to approve a spend over £5k EH? A big stumbling block has always been how slow the process is to get anything approved due to the silly chain of command and almost mistrust. I am optimistic about the new football set up the the non football side frustratingly appears to remain the same.

I envisage the usual transfer window to which we have become accustomed. We will have interest in players but will be slow out of the blocks and be usurped by other clubs. A lot of this will be because of the dysfunctional chain of command. We will wait until deadline day, panic and make a plethora of random signings more in an effort to boost the numbers than to improve the quality. And, perhaps more importantly we will have played seven games by then which will more than likely shape our season.

We paid nigh on a million for two left backs (Edun is a bit part midfielder too) and neither are anywhere near the calibre of Nyambe. Replacing him is going to cost money, even for a downgrade on Nyambe.

What really concerns me is that some £8-10m (my estimate) of player has walked away. What will be the cost of replacing them and how much will we have to pay their replacements? I could accept one leaving but three? There is something wrong for this to happen. And we might have a similar situation with Brereton coming up. Another question is will this newly thought of 'pay structure' play a part in our recruitment as we need to bring in a significant number of new ones now.

We have just drawn Hartlepool United at home in Round One. I wonder if that will affect the upcoming friendly at Hartlepool?

I don't think using an unfair comparison is splitting hairs. Had we had an Early Bird offer similar to Preston do you think we'd be at the 7,000 or so sales right now? That's the real nub of the debate for me that other clubs of similar stature can incentivise offers but we just say same as last year. No imagination or feel for the fans and it appears very little effort to grow the fan base.

And he wears Levis too. This bloke is really growing on me. 😂😂

Mill Hill St Peters and Darwen Sun Leisure if I remember correctly Andy. I came across him a few times too and really polite lad who knew where the net was. Was he also in your Orphanage Cup team or is my Alzheimer's kicking in 😂😂.

You mentioned in an earlier post about not comparing apples with apples but that's exactly what you are not doing. A fairer comparison would be to ask your PNE contact how many they sold at the early bird price.