Mount has always been overrated. He is an average number 10 whose main attribute is his ability to run around. He clearly isnt nearly as useful as the petulant Fernandes and he lacks the intelligence to play deeper or the ability to play wider. A bizarre signing. United surely need to be thinking of letting Ten Hag go. Theyve lost as many as they have won and what will more time achieve when they are so lacking in any clear strategy and tactical plan, when they do win its more down to individuals.

I certainly am far from 100% convinced by Broughton and I dont believe that our overall transfer record has necessarily increased in success compared to before he joined the club. But the Telalovic signing was clearly one out of desperation during that phase in the transfer window when there was no clarity from the owners, they were causing delays and had slashed the budget so much. On the same day, despite letting Buckley go, we were not allowed to bring in a further loan such was the situation with the budget cuts. So I can have sympathy on that deal that it clearly wasnt a first choice target by a long stretch.

But where is the blame towards the reason we were fishing in the bargain bin to begin with? Cant put it all on Broughton.

You say supposedly skint as if its questionable. But even to sign a lower league striker would cost a fee we seemingly didnt have. We couldnt even afford another loan. There seems to be absolutely no blame towards the owners or recognition that Broughton had his hands tied behind his back.

I dont get why we have to stick to the same formation throughout. Needing a goal, if the manager had any faith in either of the strikers signed for him, surely have 2 up when chasing a game.

The squad is so thin, if you start comtemplating things like chucking Gamble at right back against potentially a Sterling or if fit a Mudryk, we could get a real pasting.

The owners should be held to task for slashing the budget to make signing a competent striker practically impossible.

I just think its impossible to have no doubts. He played in Italy and could barely get a game. He played in Sweden which is far from better. He played in Russia, again, probably a lesser standard. So far, his general performance has been poor aside from signs of an ability to sniff out goals which obviously is a good skill. Hes not quick, doesnt appear skilful, and often gets subbed early, but equally is likely still not fully fit. So cant be sure of anything.

How can you be in "no doubt" that Sigurdsson will come good?

Sadly solely due to the owners, we are a nothing side. Teams wont look at any of our attacking players and fear them.

Indeed. But that misses the point anyway. The sub par Markanday, the neat and tidy but unthreatening Moran and a half fit Leonard were all chosen before the 2 new strikers when you need a goal. That says it all.

With absolute peanuts, the summer window is looking like proof of you generally get what you pay for. Hill is a solid loanee, Tronstad is a solid, functional midfielder. Beside that, not too much to shout about and zero progress despite 2 bodies through the door in terms of getting a competent Championship striker.

Absolutely shocking game, deserved defeat and the highlight was being able to go home. You look at the side we had out at the end, there is just a lack of quality and ability sadly. Probably wouldnt have scored had we played all night. Says so much that neither of our strikers signed in the summer came on. Brittain was awful, the centre backs were bomb scares, Markanday put in as bad a sub appearance as youll see, Sigurdsson was useless again and Moran didnt improve us. Szmodics and Dolan did nothing, Leonard gets into good positions but more often than not misses good chances.

If you wanted a summary of our transfer window. We badly needed a striker this summer. 1 nil down to Swansea at home, 2 signings on the bench, none come on.

People are behind this team. Its impossible to put the owners to one side though as they have obviously inflicted all of the frustrations that have led to the limations of our small and young squad. They hardly gave him a shit tonne of money. The overall net spend over his tenure was minimal and like with Tomasson, it becomes all concentrated in one summer. We spent £4m without generating funds last summer, this summer basically the opposite happened. Point being, Venkys havent suddenly become this huge hindrance since Tomasson took over. They provide no manager with sustained support, and I dont even mean repeated transfer splurges. Just a consistent plan with a lack of interference and the ability to trade. Thus, regardless of who is in tbe dug out, while Venkys are here, they will have one hand tied behind their back and as well as struggling against teams with bigger resources, they are having to do it against a lack of support from the club itself. Mowbray wasnt this special illogical chosen one, its been the same shit since Venkys joined. In the last 2 seasons under 2 different managers, weve been managed really well for the first 2/3 of the season under 2 different managers, overachieving, then it caught up on us. Even if the first bit repeats itself this season, no backing in January, a young squad and a lack of experience will see it happen again.

Why do we have to be coaches to have an opinion on a player? Will Telalovic even come on tomorrow to make a difference? People are judging based not only on his appearances thus far but where he has come from, such a poor level at a decent age. A symptom of the budget cuts. The manager seems unwilling to use him even when we dont have a striker. Writing him off totally is obviously dangerous but equally I feel like youve earmarked him as a potential difference maker tomorrow over the likes of Sigurdsson and Leonard tomorrow more as a front against these "embarassing" people.

Who recently has made it out as a disaster? And either way, your point was that we should just trust the scouts. For me, that implies just blindly assuming that they will get it right. And that in turn shuts down being able to criticise or question those signings people dont agree with. Youve just missed out the signings made that have been crap. And then whilst some of this may be true, those in the middle need time/have scored in knock abouts against scratch teams or have shown signs. Either way, its not like a vast majority/all are undoubted successes to the point where we all withold our opinions and just simply trust them. I would consider the window to be a mixed bag so far, some that look good, some that are mixed and some that look short. Obviously massively hindered by uncompetitive budget issues. Last summer was a mixed bag too. I dont necessarily think the new structure and the increase of analysts etc have led to much improvement in transfers so far that we have seen.

The problem on platforms like that is that the very vocal and terrible minority can directly message him. I dont see any benefit to footballers being on twitter personally. But his performances down to the very basic level over a lengthy period of time were terrible.

The thing with Wahlstedt is that it isnt a case of doing what he wants because its comfortable. He clearly elects to punch basically everything and does more often that not get a clear punch out of the area, but even then the ball is in play and can and often is then put back into the box. Its a problem entirely avoidable by just catching in the first place and only punching if it is really unlikely that youd be able to catch it. He came for a cross on Saturday and totally missed it and it could have led to a goal. He chose to unnecessarily punch a tame Bradshaw header behind for a corner last night. Against QPR he once was forced into a save because he punched it and the ball came straight back in. It will cost us. Players do make mistakes, no one is expeccting perfection. But last nights was a double mistake, he initially hesitated and then the ball squirming past him was inconceivable.

Ive never got this debate closing "put trust" into recruitment argument, why can we not discuss and predict what we make of signings without blindly agreeing? But why would this summer enforce that anyway? It has not been atypically successful, certainly not yet. You look especially at the most likely to be data driven, the foreign unknowns. Telalovic must have been found by the data driven analysts and look how far away he seems.

Its crazy how much judgement on the transfer window seems to have changed since the window closed. The 2 that seemed to get the most excitement were Sigurdsson and Wahlstedt. Sigurdsson came with an interesting CV to directly replace our only goal threat from last season, and he scored a few goals, but his general performance level has not been particularly good and he has looked sluggish, maybe partly a symptom of not being fully fit. If he gets a decent goal haul that is the most important thing and he has shown signs of knowing how to score. Wahlstedt had the low low benchmark of Pears and has only conceded 2 but one was one of the worst mistakes youll ever see and he has been well protected, plus his inability to catch has caused some panic. Both have work to do to justify the excitement as they settle in. On the flip side, two who came through the door with little fanfare were Hill and Tronstad. Hill has suddenly emerged as not only a really useful player but his performances in an unfamiliar role have forced us to fit our other 2 talented right backs elsewhere. Tronstad had one underwhelming game and just became totally out of favour but has suddenly come back in and really added a nice balance to the midfield. Moran is a bit in the middle. Not the same expectation as one or two others, he has shown definite talent but with question marks over where and if he fits into our best 11. Getting a reliable striker was priority number 1 and yet we are still in a position whereby we could do with Gallagher coming back. Ennis is not fit enough to start matches and Telalovic looks a dud.

Who has demanded perfection? The goalkeeper made a shocking error and has seemingly caused concern beyond me with his refusal/inability to catch basic crosses. Surely its fair to air that. Thankfully, some excellent last ditch defending meant that afterwards he was barely troubled. You mention Dolan, but surely someone who at the time went 26 games without a goal and was generally performing poor is fair game?

Im not sure in any of the games he has stood out to be honest but in his earlier games he was getting into good positions and obviously got a few goals, which naturally guarantees a start. Without those goals, I dont see much to get excited about. He is quite slow and isnt a dribbler from what we have seen. He is quite bulky but not that strong, he ducked out of a couple of challenges last night. Im not sure whether he would suit being more central. I felt last night (off topic) that we didnt have an out ball in the second half with Szmodics and Dolan chasing around but the ball was going straight back. Ennis seemed an obvious shout much earlier so it says alot about the managers view on him and his fitness that he didnt come on, there is still a long standing vacancy down the middle. He has just come back from a long term injury and he carries a goal threat so there is something there. He has huge boots to fill because Brereton gave us goals and also pace and a willingness to run in behind.

It surely cant be accurate, that would potentially be 50% of profit. £2m would be generous for Venkys.

A worry in terms of being able to push on properly now has been mentioned but look how thin the squad is. I look at todays bench and also at the weekend, Atcheson was never coming on, same with Gamble at the weekend, Garrett has fallen out of favour with better options in that area, Telalovic seems to be just making up the numbers and Tomasson seems unwilling/unable to use Ennis for very long. Markanday is a reluctant choice too having not proven his quality at this level. Weve got a good core group of important players and there are certainly some good ones amongst them but nowhere near enough. Carter is a yellow away from a suspension, Hyam and Moran went off injured and thats assuming Sigurdsson is fine. Gallagher and Hedges dont seem close to a return either. I think a more experienced side would have managed the game much better than we did, we missed 2 key chances but otherwise struggled to keep the ball. Lots of tired bodies on show too that will repeatedly be needed due to the small squad. But what was on show was real grit and determination and although much of it was last ditch, some of the defending was very good, the 2 centre backs in the second half were outstanding. Weve got an important game on Saturday followed by an away game at Chelsea, the issue there is that they could hammer us if we make loads of changes and play the likes of Garrett, Telalovic etc in that game but equally we cant keep flogging some of the players that put so much in game after game.