But he didn't "know the club" at Everton. An inability to man-manage and to improve players surely is neither here nor there.

It would get everyone significant pay rises if we was to get promoted. I can't fathom how anyone can imply that it is not in everyones best interests to get to the Premier League. If you think that there genuinely is a culture on the ground that is opposed to a comfort zone smashing promotion, then how have our absent owners who you go out of your way to defend not managed to try and fix that in over a decade? You still speak of them as innocent bystanders. And where are these changes?

He may well come across them. I am just struggling to grasp that if Josh merely says that Adam Wharton is a good player to them for example, that those players then respond to essentially a stranger by going into detail listing examples of a lack of professionalism off the pitch. And on the off chance that they do, they themselves are being unprofessional by happily telling randomers such information!

Last season, we were in an even better position and fell away. Three games ago, we had a potential trip to Wembley a game away and also were in an excellent position following a good run of form. Since, we messed up that chance of an FA Cup semi final despite being 2-1 up with 10 minutes to go, and have since come back from the 2 week break by putting in two awful performances (in line with some of the earlier in the season no shows prior to things just appearing to click) leading to 2 losses. Surely even you can appreciate why people might start worrying that we might get a season of de ja vu, of being in an excellent position and it fizzling away? The team is being backed, we had a big crowd yesterday and contrary to some idiots, our away followings have been tremdendous. That backing is there and when people criticise on here, it doesn't warrant the "back the team" comments. They are being backed.

What makes you say that he did, bar rumours on here most of which generally are a load of shite? He wanted to sell Rothwell to sign 2 players, not fitting with a man who didn't want money to spend. He turned a couple of kids on loan down, he admitted so, but other than that.

No, I had a similar opinion. Not worth getting wound up over and micro analysing. May aswell be reading from a script, just typical cliches and trying to dampen expectations. I didn't doubt that he has run into them. More that why would they discuss team mates to such a degree to people they don't know much if at all which highlights various examples of unprofessionalism? Reminds me a bit of when Paul Mani was saying that Rothwell's dad was telling everyone on the train that Mowbray had a move lined up last summer and was trying to tap up all of our out of contract players with quadrupled wages or whatever it was.

His quotes throughout the season have been similar. Project/journey talk and bigging up our opposition and what we are up against. Managerial spiel.

But still, for them to sell their team mates down the river by listing unprofessional traits willingly to strangers.

I don't get what relevance that has to players actively telling fans they dont know about how their team mates train and their lack of discipline.

Yeah I am. Even if I bumped into one of the first team players though, which has never happened, I suspect that they wouldn't openly tell me about the discipline of other players.

I don't think Morton is comparable to Mola in that in an area of weakness, unfortunately Morton is needed and I would personally say he is probably better than Garrett. But he certainly shouldn't be playing anywhere near as often as he has been. He was again ineffective today, Mola is levels below which is saying something.

Where do you meet numerous players on a regular basis?

Why would they tell you that? And how?

Tomasson has definitely not been aided by poor recruitment by Broughton. In midfield, we needed experience. Broughton opted for Morton who is not what we needed (ie young and not very good) and compounded it by failing to strengthen in January, the O'Brien fiasco being key. Up front, our main target only lasted until January because he was so shit and then he failed to bring in any one else. Hyam has been a very good signing, Szmodics has grown into an important player and we also got an injury prone squad player at full back and an additional joker in Mola. That being said, that doesn't excuse a quite frankly embarassing record from losing positions, 1 point (from a bad goalkeeping error) is simply not good enough and will always create a ceiling on what we can achieve.

Kaminski Brittain Hyam Wharton Pickering Travis Wharton Dolan Szmodics Rankin Costello Brereton Subs: Pears, Carter, Hedges, Gallagher, Morton, Leonard, Garrett

This Sunderland v Hull game is brilliant. Mowbray has twice got them ahead from losing positions.

Would you start Gallagher then?! A huge weakness of Tomasson is dealing with going a goal down. He cannot get us back in games.

Your logic is utterly bizarre. He failed last time hence why he got sacked. Merely knowing the club is no substitute for being a competent manager.

There are a lot of silly rumours about him, that is for sure.

Its absolute rubbish that he has done nothing since. He set up the winner at Hull with a superb pass. He scored the winner v Birmingham and he was excellent v Boro too.

We had this same problem last season where we have a player who has agreed to go elsewhere in the summer yet our owners haven't learnt their lesson and again refused to sell. That being said, we can't drop him because he is our likeliest goalscorer. He should play up front.

He knows some of the players yes, he got sacked for not getting the most of them. How is that positive?

You don't half come up with some imaginative theories to defend the owners. Why would anyone sabotage a deal on purpose? And why don't Venkys get rid of anyone they deem to be doing counterproductive things?

Terrible performance when we needed a big one. Tomasson has a real weakness in being able to get points from losing positions, when Norwich scored the ref may aswell have blown up. Must win on Monday but I can only see a defeat. If we throw away a play off position whereby we were 4 points to go with us having 8 to play and our opponents having 7, then its hard not to directly compare to last season.

Surely we wouldn't be naive enough to go into a season with only one senior keeper.