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My point has not been that we haven't played some very capable sides in the knockout stages of these tournaments. I also described the way that we have dealt with the 3 the teams we have comfortably beaten as "impressive" and praised the team after all 3 games. I have also praised individuals including Foden, Bellingham and Saka who I think are all top talents. You keep taking my comments out of context, I really enjoyed watching Brazil last night and some of the football on show was superb. I saw no need to even bring England into it and it was roverandout that again felt the need to do so. My comments about us being fortunate (in terms of the draw) related to previous tournaments, I revert you back to my first paragraph about what I think of us so far in this tournament. The problem is that people cannot seem to discuss other teams positively or negatively without it having to come back to England. I haven't compared England unfavourably to anyone in this World Cup thus far. I stand by the assertion that in previous tournaments, we have avoided the very elite teams with the very elite players in the most part. Those England teams were inferior as you touch on, but equally we avoided France, we avoided Brazil and Argentina in the World Cup, Portugal with Ronaldo, Spain, teams like Colombia, Denmark and Sweden obviously were very capable but not on the same level.
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The best team in Africa for sure, but African teams have not done well on the world stage in recent history. My comments about Foden referring to Bellingham becoming the best midfielder in the world have been taken out of context. Roverandout has been repeatedly suggesting that pundits put England down and big up other big players to the point where seemingly he struggles to watch other teams without feeling sick. I used that along with some of the other bits not because I don't agree with it, but as recent evidence that we do big up our own, and that we do praise our own players. Regarding the draws, I stand by my comments. Obviously you aren't going to face minnows in knockout football at major tournaments, but in the last 2 tournaments we have faced draws that relative to what other teams we could have had, that had you offered such a path at the start of the tournament, that you would accept. Germany has always been the exception and I have always said as such and praised accordingly, in spite of their general recent tournament experience. Colombia especially without Rodriguez were tricky opposition but not close to being elite, Mina has never settled in England, Falcao was 32, Cuadrado etc, nothing special. Then came Sweden, you take them in a quarter final any day. Then Croatia who outclassed us. In 2020, Germany were the exception, see above. Then came Ukraine ie the weakest of the quarter finalists, before Denmark minus Eriksen, the weakest of the other 3 semi finalists, still we beat them which is all you can do, dodgy penalty or no dodgy penalty. You still have to beat these teams and Southgate deserves praise for doing so, but there are still big question marks over whether he can overcome the very elite in knockout tournament football. We have yet to face France, we avoided peak Belgium aside from in dead rubbers, we avoided Spain, Brazil and Argentina, and we couldn't overcome Italy and Croatia, indeed I felt that Southgate really struggled to manage early leads. Hopefully Saturday evening can be a coming of age. The draw is the draw, yes. In my and many others opinions, we have been fortunate with it in the last 2 tournaments.
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They are a good team, some really top players in there. Fantastic by Hakimi.
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I described our three wins in the quote mentioned as impressive and have praised us further after each of them. I would also agree that Senegal are better than South Korea albeit neither are one of the top countries in the tournament. Senegal are missing their talisman and were quite reliant on 2 attacking players currently playing in the Championship, they also really missed Idrissa Gueye. We have better players than him and beat them with minimal fuss which is worthy of praise. You are correct in that you can only play the teams you are drawn against, hence why there is an element of luck in the draw that doesn't exist in a league format. We have had very fortunate draws in the last 2 tournaments but we have got a really tough draw this time around. Roverandout doesn't display understandable, moreso ecentricity whereby any discussion about any other teams has to be assumed as a slight on England and regular 180 degree turns within minutes. He also seemingly cannot watch other teams and appreciate good football without being sickened by how commentators talk about some of the best players in the world.
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Who on earth wants to watch that abroad? Match going fans not considered again.
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Is that enough reason to want them to be "spanked senseless?" Did you not enjoy their performance tonight as a neutral? (Never mentioned England)
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I dont think people even do underestimate England. @roverandout how come you hate Brazil so much?
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I would say that the 4 teams that we have played and South Korea are all of a similar level, half decent with the occasional good player. We havent't played strong opposition. Real signs of intent would be to beat a big team but us winning by 3 or 4 goals is still impressive as were Brazil tonight. Some of the one touch stuff, tricks and flicks were true Brazilian flair and I loved watching it.
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You are becoming paranoid. In the last 24 hours since we beat a Senegal side missing its talisman and also its key midfielder, I have seen the BBC pundits saying how France will be worried about us, the ITV pundits saying how teams will be as scared playing us as anyone in the tournament and Fodem saying how Bellingham WILL (not might) become the Worlds best midfielder. Others were merely enjoying an excellent Brazil performance but for some reason an alarm goes off in your head where any praise to an intetnational team cannot be seperated in your head from England, nor not seen as a slight.
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😂 your desperation to make the other 31 teams in the tournament never cease to amaze. They were brilliant to watch in that first half.
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Brazil showing what they are about tonight.
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Is there ever a time to overplay?
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Holland are a good side and it certainly wouldn't be a "bye" in any game. But it has been commented that we are on the hardest side of the draw this time, it's not some sort of anti England agenda that has led people to claim that our draws in recent tournaments have been favourable.
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They aren't minnows.
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Minnows is a ridiculous way to describe two good sides, one of whom were World Cup finals last time, but they aren't top teams because they don't have top players in the final third.
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Point being you didnt pick the team that Southgate went for either, so the told you so nonsense is invalidated. Until Southgate doesnt. Stick to the same team. You change your mind every 3 minutes about England. Agreed. Stick to the 433, they play 4231 so there is no need for 3 centre backs.
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He should stick with the same team against France. Southgate loves to revert back to 5 at the back but the current set up is exactly how we should play. Foden is absolutely brilliant but Southgate has to stick with him.
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You are nothing if not eccentric. You also didnt agree with his team. Saka in particular was one you have not wanted in the team.
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He is nowhere near Mbappe. You said he never lets us down!
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Technically not brilliant and poor keeping? Pretty much a top player? The very best around.
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Absolutely fantastic talent who justifies the ego and could very well lead France to another World Cup.
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Specific. Found now: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20646058/england-team-senegal-foden-saka-rashford-world-cup/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballtwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1670171555 No one is unbeatable but especially v France, you can understand a cautious approach by inferior teams. Picked off there with a superb finish by Mbappe. Do you not root for underdogs?
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Where have you seen that? I would at least be pleased to see Foden start. They are massively inferior to France as they are to Argentina, so I am not sure why they have provoked so much anger in not encouraging an open game with better teams.
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Championship - 22-23
roversfan99 replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Not strictly Championship obviously but caught a bit of Wycombe v Portsmouth where Sky are seemingly trying to copy from American Sports by showing camera inside the dressing rooms at half time and interviewing managers mid game. This is third tier football, absolute nonsense.