roversfan99

Wheres that from?

I have never seen Wintle play and I am not necessarily saying that I want Clucas, but I think we badly need some experience, especially with Holtby, Evans, Downing and hopefully Bennett and Johnson about to leave. We shouldnt be solely looking for younger players. We should be wary of signing too many players from League 1 though, he is the 4th player from mid table Crewe to be linked!

No not at all, I don't think he is anywhere near consistent or effective enough. But he has played centrally pretty much for the entirety of this season and not performed to a good enough level, so unsure its anything other than a cop out to just refrain from judging due to "appalling mismanagement." Of course, Mowbray signed him, so either way it is is responsibility.

I get some of them, but Kaminski has just won player of the season and Travis and Rothwell both have spent the season playing consistently when fit in their preferred positions, so not too sure about those 3. Lenihan is a mainstay in his favoured position when fit, and Brereton has gone from joke to average playing in a position that seems to suit him more. Gallagher out wide for example is an obvious one.

I dont think that anyone wants people to stop posting genuine (which not all of it is, not specific to any poster but many who claim to be in the know wont be) information to be fair to @Bigdoggsteel but equally, if information is cryptic to the point of being useless or nowhere near the mark, then people cant be expected to not at all question that or even refrain from a bit of light ribbing, just as if information does come to fruition then those "ITK's" will be the first to point out their correct information. Its a dangerous game when posters are or want to be treated differently in case they spit their dummy out and stop posting. I think we all want to here genuine information however. Its a rubbish situation though with Mowbray in charge. Glimmers of hope that he is about to go can either provide hope to some or wind up already frustrated others if it doesnt happen in equal measure.

Presumably not baseless, inaccurate and often made up and cryptic ones.

To be fair, Gayle is now 31 and has proven over his career that he is very much in that bracket of being very good at Championship level but not capable at Premier League level. Obviously I have no idea if they genuinely want Armstrong but looking at it, Callum Wilson is their main striker but he is injury prone and Armstrong may appeal in that he comes heavily discounted, he is only 24 so scope to improve and he is flexible so that he can play down the middle when Wilson inevitably is out rather than resorting to Joelinton and either with Wilson or from either side should Bruce want to play them both.

Understand?

From now until either a sudden press release down the line or his contract expires. Our absent owners clearly dont consider there to be a question regarding the manager, so he presumably wont be getting a dreaded vote of confidence either. He will just continue indefinitely.

Im not sure that having an inferior player at CB would have left our league position unchanged. The idea of loaning a clearly superior CB and loaning out ours to get valuable experience for me was a very logical one, Harwood Bellis was a good signing and the loan that Carter was sent on was a very successful one. The issue was that it was only done in January on the back of signing a solitary centre back last summer after the season started who wasnt fit for purpose.

Cant see Villa getting Abraham, past links aside. They already have Watkins and now Wesley is back fit, I think Dean Smith said that they arent getting a striker. Surely theres no chance that we can come close to Gayles wages. I also dont think that wed get anywhere near a full 15m to spend. Venkys would pocket a large amount.

Even in a flawed Mowbray system, he could play the sitting role whereby being static suits that position, dictating from from deep. You compare to players that Mowbray has chosen there in the past, Johnson the most obvious who cannot do that job effectively and regularly causes us problems getting caught on the ball, or someone like Trybull who just personified the slow, boring team that we became because everything with him was cautious and in slow motion. Bannan looks forward more often and can take the ball in tight spaces.

But Rothwell and Travis arent particularly effective going box to box themselves, assuming that we continue with our flawed system. And even if they played in the 2 more advanced roles, Bannan could sit and dictate, something he is capable of doing far better than Holtby even when he wasnt sat on the treatment table.

Thats a unique situation though. Many people blamed Huddersfield for our relegation, so that cant then be followed by wanting us to throw in a scratch team for any games. I was always of the opinion that we went down because we deserved to. I do sort of agree with this, although I would stop short at saying that people are necessarily "depriving" themselves in that its not a massive miss, lets face it. But in regards especially to Venkys, they do not give a shit or a seconds thought to any of us. I've done marches, sit-ins, the 1875 protest etc, and they cleaely didnt care and arent affected. Crowds have gone down, they just dont care about us. Venkys are and always have been the problem which is why it sickens me that people actively defend them still. I also agree that Mowbray isnt on par with Kean especially or even Coyle. He is a manager who has overall done a decent job but he needed sacking at least a year ago. He is also in as good a job as he will ever have again, naturally he wont just resign, I get the frustrations leading to analysis of every word he utters, its all self preservation though and I do genuinely think that beyond that nonsense, he does genuinely want to do his best and he does try his best, he does live away from his family and puts the hours in im sure. Just as certain players try their best and themselves arent good enough. I wouldnt leave if I was him. Again, it comes down to our bastard owners. Dont get me wrong, he frustrates me as even a poor player does, well moreso as he has more impact, and the thought of an inevitable further year with him in charge saddens me.

I dont doubt that wed be better off without Waggott based on the things he is responsible for but it seems a massive stretch and doesnt make any sense for the owners to be willing to stump up yet he doesnt want them to. It says in that article: "The club were in the process of seeking external investment to afford the implementation service, with Waggott keen to place extra financial pressure on the owners, estimating that a complete overhaul would cost in the region of £2m. Ultimately that finance wasn't attained and the club have sanctioned just a standard refurbishment of all pitches at both stadium and training ground."

Seems illogical to me that the owners would have said that we can have the money to fully relay the pitches and Waggott would decline. Why would he?

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/blackburn-rovers-ewood-brockhall-pitch-20564696 Unsure where to put this, but Venkys again making further mockery of their supposed "we only have to ask and they will sign the cheque" mentality. Done on the cheap again.

https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/300912-football-fancast-single-out-“passenger”-reach-for-criticism/?tab=comments#comment-9813683 Some opinions on Reach: "playing with reach on the pitch is like dribbling past the washing line in the back garden when you were a kid." "it's like starting with 10 men" "Seen more backbone in a bag of candy floss" "The guy has ability but sadly lacks guts, determination, heart and is as soft as s**t." "I’m just glad I’ll never see the spineless waster in a Wednesday shirt again." I dont think they will miss him.

I wouldnt agree on Reach (certainly not one of the first names on the team sheet) but Bannan would be a brilliant signing. Always has been a classy player and a great passer and would give us ability on the ball that we dont have, as well as experience.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19290347.rovers-must-find-answers-transfer-dilemmas-says-mowbray/ And Mowbray says the pre-season plans are already sorted, but for the second successive summer there won’t be a training camp in Austria. “We won’t be going abroad this year. We’ve already sorted the pre-season to a vast majority,” he added. “We’ve got a lot of games pencilled in, we know where we’re going with the group, we’ve sorted out many things.” Not the work of a man expecting his P45.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19290347.rovers-must-find-answers-transfer-dilemmas-says-mowbray/ Adam Reach mentioned, seemingly very much from a speculative perspective by Rich Sharpe in the absence of any genuine information, obviously its an easy link with him about to become a free agent and coming through at Boro. A player capable of occasional spectacular goals but one who tends to do very little in the games I have watched him play in at Sheffield Wednesday. Not had the best couple of years. We do need at least one or two midfielders who can regularly get goals from midfield, our current lot dont/havent done anywhere near enough. Rothwell with 3, Buckley with 1, Holtby with 0, Travis with 0, Downing with 0, Johnson with 3, Trybull with 0, Davenport with 1 and Evans with 0. The last 4 have more of an excuse having regularly played the most defensive of the 3 but we need to take the chance to have a clear out and we do need a better sitting midfielder but we also need players who can get goals.

The most confusing aspect of Mowbray's loyalty to Johnson is the type of player he is. He has never been a technically gifted player, at his best for Norwich he was a box to box, powerful goalscoring midfielder, a skillset that has massively waned with age. We want him to sit and start attacks. I have never seen a player caught so often on the ball leading to dangerous situations.

It also implies that the striker and his quality is an irrelevance as long as he has the "team built around him" as a central striker.

I think at times he has looked decent although I thought he didnt really take his chance at the weekend. He should have been given more starts in the last few games though over players like Evans, Johnson and Trybull who wont and/or shouldnt be here next season. His Rovers career which is 3 years old has not really got off the ground and like Ayala and Rankin Costello, he unfortunately seems to be made of glass. The theory behind such deals (low fee youngsters to grow) does make sense although Davenport like Chapman has not worked out as we may have hoped. I also want Mowbray out but its counter productive if whoever the manager is has his signings made above his head.

Where is this information from? I saw since that @J*B put similar on twitter but was unsure if either of you posted based on the other, or have heard it seperately. If true, sounds a little underwhelming based on his spells at Doncaster and Coventry, and perhaps a cheap replacement for Evans. His supposed style and weaknesses make him sound like a Johnson lite version! Low fee signings of young players from big teams do make sense in theory although I suppose the Davenport deal hasnt really worked out and it has a lot of similarities.