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What a way to celebrate 150 yrs of our great club. Relegation. 🙄

Not for me. Matt Jansen was absolutely fantastic, but Damien Duff at full flight was genuinely world class. As highlighted by his performances in the 2002 world cup whilst still a Rovers player.

Im not asking you to go through Twitter. I had it in my head that we spent around £5m and brought around £10m in, but Thats based on the sales as they were made, signings as the came in and my memory. If Transfer market is correct that £8.5m but does it mention our sales on there too? Not having a go by the way, just wondered if you knew, so thanks.

True most likely but, how could we know. As a keeper he should be aware of danger being present or not but bottom line is no goals from it right. To my point he's better than Ainsley at the moment, by a ways in my opinion. Your opinion is different, wrong but different. I just don't believe you can't see it Rev that's all. I can't be wrong now can I? Funny thing is my wife even mentioned it today and she is not that up on footy. On a separate note. Is this Baradji signing taining at all, is he in re-hab what the heck is his status. I have not seen anything on him at all really.

Plenty of sources out there. Transfermarkt has our down for around 10m euros spend. Different media sources on line from selling clubs have the reported fees. Etc, etc, etc For example Im not going through twitter looking for each one.

We did alot of money compared to previous seasons. That was my point. Sadly some of you are trying mixing up what I said with others things which I never said. Your other points are right and valid but I never mentioned them.

Matt Jansen?. Winning goal to seal our promotion back to the PL and goal in our FA cup final winner. Surely he would be the 4th one?.

If you're going 1992 - Tugay then Damien Duff would be you're 4th man surely?

Yesterday we collected a point relegation sides don't get. We have played WBA, Brum, Ipswich and Stoke of the favoured sides and frankly been unlucky not to have got more points against them. But relegation sides don't get the luck especially against good sides. We have been dire in one half against Norwich and two halves against Charlton and suffered a worldie and suicide against Swansea. The real relegation test will be gaining or dropping points against the two Sheffields and Oxford. Performances against Hull and Watford suggest we will be ok but do a Charlton and we will be deservedly in the poo. I can see us playing brilliantly against Coventry, terribly against Sheffield United and losing both...

I didn’t realise we have spent as much as that and thought, much of the business in was undisclosed . Genuine question, is this based on assumptions or do we know for sure what We paid for each new signing?

You're playing with words to make it sound like we spent a lot of money in the last window chaddy. We didnt "spend £10m" we ended up with a net surplus of £1 - £2m. I accept that was still better than what we all expected ie. the top earners would be sold and no money spent at all but we have still sold our higher earners and Alebiosu apart bought in Inferior players on lower wages.

Come off it - Toth didnt know there wasn't going to be any danger before he patted the ball out.

Yeah, the only way it'd possibly work is to hold the exhibition match before the main game but presumably they dont want to put the pitch at risk.

Not seen it except the 2 minutes highlights which suggest Toth made decent saves and directed the ball away from trouble. He would have saved the goal looking at how he had come out to block except for the looped deflection. Robbins seems to think Stoke were at serious risk of losing that game. They would have been nicely tucked in behind the top 3 had they held on. I was very impressed by Gudjonsson at Watford. Thought he was going to be on a level with Cantwell on that performance. Good to read Miller, de Neve and Kargbo played well while on the pitch. Kargbo could easily have fluffed his goal and kept his cool giving the Stoke defence and keeper no chance with his placement. Given the overwhelmingly negative sentiment on here and lack of mention of his name, I take it McLoughin must have been pretty decent... Pitch looked great despite having been submerged by the River Darwen and suffered a biblical storm in the previous 24 hours.

A modern professional football player needs to be able to handle criticism on & off the pitch, online & offline. Glad the lad got his 1st goal of the campaign, hopefully he builds on it, add to his tally & proves his critics wrong. Tbh I am yet to be convinced that he'll be able to perform consistently.

I won't be going, I am boycotting the game!

Id say in the post Venkys era no one good enough has actually managed to stay at the club long enough to attain legendary status. I wouldn't be putting a picture or statue of any player up since Tugay. Players in my time following rovers (since 1992) who I would accept in granite form - Shearer, Freidel, Tugay. Think that's it? Maybe the whole 1995 team as champions as a fresco maybe, but beyond Shearer hard to pick an individual out for chiseling into stone. You have to reserve it for the best of the best.

Commenting on here is the equivalent of chatting to people down the pub. Its a safe space to give opinions as we go, positive or negative, game by game. The fans in the ground were simply not on his back today, the whole team was backed throughout even at 1 down. Even if you heard people muttering to the person next to them, thats basically on par with on here/down the pub. If you think the opinions you quoted are wrong, or irrational, then fine. If you think people should totally withold opinion until the player has been here for a period of time, again thats fine, although that only seems to work one way, as if a player starts well, take Alebiosu, you dont get people shutting them down by saying hold off, he might turn out to be rubbish in time. But none of the above means that the players wont be backed in the ground. Im not having that Gudjohnsen hasnt been backed in the ground. The aspect of your opinions that I dont agree with is that he isnt being backed. He is, and even if people criticise him either on here, down the pub or even muttering to the person next to him, thats not the same. Ive never seen the problem with discussing a player no matter how early he is into his time here, good or bad. Its ultimately based on first impressions. Take Miroshita, his performance v Watford in his first start got widespread praise, hes been invisible since. Sometimes a first impression will be wrong, thats fine, but it doesnt mean people shouldnt give them, IMO.

Even more depressing, the ones that were good were forced out, quit cos they could not stand the shit shiwnthat was Venkies and their monkies.

You nailed it.

I've been impressed with how Cantwell has got more engaged and comitted as the situation at Rovers got more difficult. The opposite to what I expected. But maybe he is a player who is inspired by trying to dig the team out of a hole. He doesn't look like a player who is looking to get out. Part of that he probably knows he's crashed out of several clubs now so needs to redeem himself to some extent to get his career to move forward. Some of his close control and passing today was really top drawer. I could take or leave him last year, but this year he looks very very good. On why Gueye hasn't been given a chance - my guess is Gueye is not a good at sticking to a managers tactical instructions (particularly pressing), in terrible form and is demotivated and difficult to work with. Understandably this really doesn't work for Ismael who therefore won't play him and would rather swap him out of the club for someone who does what he wants, and they tried in the summer. That didn't come to fruition so Gueye is hanging around. What is obvious if we are going to get anything out of Gueye we are going to have to adapt the system to him a bit. I don't think Ismael is the sort of guy who has that flexibility unfortunately imo. He's more "my way or the high way".... So expect him to get a few minutes here or there and then leave in January. Shame as I reckon the right sort of manager would get a lot out of him. Big Sam for one. Would get him motivated, find the right way to use his physical dominance etc.

The fact we're having this debate speaks volumes! I was too young to remember Jim Iley, so for me it's Ince. But, hold my beer........

What irritated me today and leads me to believe we are just not very football savvy and that our leaders aren't too clever. We had 4ft 9 attackers up against 6ft 15 behemoths in Stokes middle defence. So knowing this what do we do? Send in high looping balls to the middle, just meat and drink for Stoke allows them time too. Surely low or lowish and hard is the way to go preferably in an area that has the defenders turning tontheir goal. Similar to the cross that was just too far ahead of Gudjohnsen so he was not able to get to. That ilk of cross. These are the types of crosses that give big defenders fits and allow drop downs, force mistakes and 2nd balls for our lil demons to get on to. This should not be hard but it is alien to our lot. Someone mention the same about Millers throws, yes, without BigMac we just can not win those high arcing balls.

I think they will hang a for sale sign round Whartons neck too. Hence the contract bump and slow comeback.

Was a difficult one for sure, he was also in oerfect oosition tonscore but the cross in to him was dog shit and he could not get there a yard and a half further back and he's on the scoresheet.