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It is what it is, you can’t convince the 3)’s whilst wages are being paid. So just work around them.

Agree its hard to prove a point which is why I think being reflective is the better angle. What have we achieved in last 15 years. Look where we where compared to now. Look at the quality of players we were bringing in compared to now...etc

Is there a difference between thinking we would be buggered without them and thinking they have been bad owners generally? It can’t be that big a portion of the fan base. I don’t have much conversation with Rovers fans but when I do it is always unanimous that the Venkys are bad for this club. I guess it is the company that you keep There is a message to get across but from the sounds of some posters here - Matty, yourself - there appears a belief that message is nigh on impossible to make. Unless, of course, the events on the pitch during the 90 minutes spark a sudden burst of frustration It is a shame really but this is the hand Rovers fans have been dealt

This will see us relegated and slide down the leagues. If we're offering wages lower or the same as we were 3-4 years ago , the quality of players we'll attract will drop. It's also likely to be more cost effective to up a current players wage rather than having to find a replacement in the transfer market considering there's so many additional costs the headline fee doesn't take into account.

Tell them that, but no chance that happens. We should use the 800k profit we got on wages but this is not how this football club works. Idk who said it but apparently we want to keep the wages under 10k for each player since the summer that just went

And it will continue to be like this whilst they pay the wages. You heard a lot of the same within the Sheff Wed fanbase until he stopped paying the players/staff.

Hibs offer fees & wages that even current day Rovers can beat, should they chose to Miller didn't come here for the same wage, or less than he was on there

He might be taking a helicopter to Old Langho...

I wouldn't discount us, given lack of investment in Northern rail.

Cadamarteri posted a pic with his dad at an airport so possibly on way to Hibs?

Ismael ?

I'm not, fooking Palace cost me an 8 game ACCA 😠

It doesn't but Venkys are seemingly unwilling to do that

Standard transfer window then. Big talk at the start, no problems shipping people out to bring in money, but unable to bring people in due to Venky constraints. Ismael's first targets missed, 3 players in by the Hull game, business done early. Managed one easy loan. Anyone surprised?

Apologies as I am not a football financier. Just because Gueye was on 5k a week, doesn't mean we can't use some of the transfer fee (equivalent to 34k a week) to sign a proper striker

You can watch via the amazon prime app but it still requires a Discovery+ subscription.

Nixon saying we have money to bring a couple in but wages are an issue as venkys are reluctant to pay decent wages. He Said the Chinese club paying £1.8 million for Gueye but that Gueye Is only on 5 grand a week here so shifting his wages won't help to much in bringing others in Small bit about us possibly bidding again for Bailey Cadamateri again

Pears out of contract at the same time as Toth, and on a higher wage, so whilst Pears may be kept next season in the same manner as Hedges was kept this season as they wont be able to get a fee worth them selling, he will be gone in the summer of 2027 and replaced by Michalski, who will be 20 by that point, and will still have 2 years + an option for another year on his contract Forward planning, 2 "high earners" gone, replaced by a promising youngster on a fraction of the wage

Depends on the situation. I’m not going to start shouting back across a couple of rows to correct them, nor do I want to spend 10 minutes during a game trying to outline all of the Venkys wrongs they don’t know about. But I heard it said (about the chants / pitch) in the pub after the Sheff Wednesday game and I had a long conversation chatting to two lads. They didn’t know half of the issues, but I also felt like they didn’t believe it either as I couldn’t really prove much on the spot.

If you have TNT Sports in Sky, then Discovery Plus should be free. I've spent the last 24 hours trying to 'activate' my Discovery subscription but keep getting the error message I posted previously. For TNT customers on Sky, you can in theory access the broadcast on TNT 7 (!) via Red Button on any TNT sport channel, but this failed to work yesterday, leading to high levels of frustration and anger on my part. Rumour has it, it can be accessed via Amazon Prime TV app, I'll try this later. If not I'll pop a twig in my ear, press my belly button and wink repeatedly till it comes on, as this appears the only remaining option.

I think it's the U23s or something?

There are too many streaming services these days.

Depressing that we're likely losing Toth but Pears will likely remain forever.

Rovers in being useless shocker.

How do you respond to those around you just out of interest? Or how do others respond if they're say out of range? I think it's one of the more frustrating moments seeing some around you mocking or jesting but unaware of the current situation we find ourselves in