Now just apply some critical thinking to it. We want to build as strong a squad as possible and Wharton won't last a season and Batth is 36 so we'd be very strong in that dept, Batth would be off next summer and Wharton a year stronger. Chances of all 3 being fit and fighting for 1 spot at the same time wouldn't be often over a long hard season plus cup games.

How can you "think" he's not as good as Baath? You say Baath was outstanding? I agree, yet his season before at Norwich, they couldn't wait to get rid of him. Players adapt differently to managers/systems etc. We can all have opinions but to say someone is better than someone's else without watching both (over a season) is abit wild.

It’s only a friendly.

I also dont think he is as good as Batth. Batth was outstanding, McLoughlin struggled for a regular spot at centre back and was played at left back. If he signs, I do feel like as a 4th signing, they are all filling necessary voids in the squad rather than improving our best 11. We needed some additional width, De Neve fills that, but we need someone to really improve the first 11 with Dolan having gone. We needed a strong 3rd choice midfielder which hopefully Tavares can do as opposed to Buckley and Forshaw who arent good enough. If either of the main 2 go, that becomes a different story, they would then need directly replacing. We needed right back cover, we got that in Alebiosu, but if Brittain goes and isnt directly replaced, we are weaker there. And now potentially McLoughlin, a good player to have around, but still think we need another centre back and we still look weaker than last year there. We need some players to actually come straight into the starting 11, mainly along the front line, as well as needing to ensure that if any of our best players leave, which is incredibly likely, we dont just try and make do with what we have.

Scrap what I just said, Batth is right footed 🤣🤣 senior moment there

are we going to spend some money then???!!!!!

Not sure why you’d want Batth, McLoughlin and Wharton as all left footed centre backs in the team 🥴 we wouldn't be signing McLoughlin if we still had Batth Grand scheme of things McLoughlin is younger, quicker and better on the ball good signing in my opinion 💪

Relegation odds

A lot younger i assume and will maybe actually get longer than 12 months. Ideally we'd keep Batth and bring this guy in but they aren't capable of that.

Dubois is the new Delboy.

The McLoughlin deal makes a lot of sense. Plenty of championship experience, left footed and we are desperate for a centre back. Taking advantage of Hull's situation as well, which makes a refreshing change, as it's normally us strapped for cash.

What happened to marketing the home kit? If flogging a few extra shirts is the only metric then we should play the opening home game in that horrible dark green kit - that should shift a few more of them. It's a constant dumbing down and erosion of traditions and standards, drip, drip, drip and people appear to be lapping it up. They've already changed the halves on the home shirt, now we're having to play in away colours at home to suit the opposition. I hope any-one who doesn't mind the switch doesn't have the temerity to complain when we eventually unveil a non halved home kit. After all it's only a shirt.

Was indeed the same player.

Might be wrong but seem to recall we were reported to have an interest in a Hull player last pre season. Probably the same one and someone has found a list whilst clearing out Park / Lowe’s desks 😊

That would be purely to save on wages then. Montgomery is a young midfielder who got sent off in his only start filling in there.

I hope so, Miller is a big lad too, 6ft 2, could potentially fill in at centre half. Given the fragility of Carter and Wharton as well, I think that adds to his appeal.

McLaughlin sounds an okay signing - how low the bar, and our expectation, has fallen. At least he is 'Championship ready'. Can't help but think club is pulling its finger out on this one as there's bad news on Carter's 'cramp'!

I don't think we get one if Brittain goes, Montgomery will be backup.

I dont believe that Miller story personally, at best its outdated prior to Alebiosu signing. We definitely need a right back when Brittain goes, but we wont be bidding amidst the uncertainty, I wouldnt think.

Do you think we'll be going for another RB? Personally think money should be allocated to a more attacking position.

Lewis Miller would be a great signing, probably the best name we've been linked this summer. The only problem is think it's highly unlikely, especially with Charlton flexing their financial muscle too 🥲

Myers who is normally on the ball has stated it’s close - in the midst of the doom and gloom it’s certainly a signing I can get behind left footed can played centre back and left back if needed (although plenty of options there) experienced knows the league happy ‘if’ it happens

I can see the upside to McLaughlin. An experienced Championship defender, good age, left sided, and fairly well regarded. Decent on the ball too. We will be presumably going abroad again for players further up the pitch so some extra Championship know how to build upon would be useful. There are question marks on quality. He wasnt able to start regularly at centre back at Hull and was shunted to left back where seemingly he did well. The reaction fans from Hull is mainly positive although it seems partly based on him playing at left back and leaving them short there, factoring in their transfer ban, rather than his abilities at centre back. Hes not quick either so it might be a problem if we want to play a high line. Certainly doesnt seem like part of the plan of what they wanted to be honest. All of our main targets were abroad and it may be that we stumble upon needed experience somewhat by chance. I think back to when Broughton tried to bring in Batth, that seemed to be when we had identified the need for experience and all planned out, until Venkys meddled. Obviously this is assuming he signs, which we dont know. Advanced means nothing here and the source is flawed. If he is now our target, just get it done soon because he will need to go straight in.

rovers version of "advanced talks" is ringing up the club,putting a derisory bid in then claiming the talks are close to an agreement,we only agree terms with desperate clubs who want to get rid of their dead wood