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I obviously don't watch them - just turned on for the last 10 (well 16) mins to enjoy the upset, but yes that little Pino lad didn't pass to Wharton once, despite Adam being in a better position every time.

brilliant stuff from macc,love a good pitch pitch invasion as well😁

I've noticed that alot this season. They go for the difficult pass instead of a two yard pass to Wharton. Pino is my pet peeve he tries to beat too many players

Have the Palace players fallen out with Wharton? They're not even passing him the ball.

2-1, great free kick, hope Macc hold on, they deserve this

Agree even ghuei who never puts a foot wrong normally has been poor

I think he needs to leave Palace in the summer. He's gone as far as he can playing alongside mediocre to decent players. If he wants to take that next step he needs to play alongside better players. Whether that's in England at a city or Liverpool or abroad with real madrid

all the palace team guilty of complacency imo,did they expect macc to sit back and admire them

Not to excuse him, he has not played well today, but he does tend to look better when he is playing with better players (who make better runs, and can anticipate, receive & control his passes)

Great post, I agree with the message wholeheartedly.

I don't disagree with you, just assuming that's what the manager is thinking without saying it.

Wharton was outstanding against villa. He's been horrendous today

palace waking up a bit now,macc sitting very deep

We had a big crowd against Derby and that did wonders 🤣🤣

Very solid performance from Edmondson, but as he's playing in a fairly defensive role he's not doing anything flashy or eye catching. Working very hard and disrupting a premier league attack. Playing a bit of a Tronstad-esq role. That said, couple of wayward passes and a (very) optimistic free kick. Wharton almost scores, good save from the keeper.

Please can you post any statistics to support this assertion?

excellent,he`s never given the palace midfield a second on the ball,adam is having an absolute mare,macc are absolutely dominating palace effort wise,it would`nt surprise me if they got a 3rd goal

What on earth is going on with Palace? So little effort (and unfortunately I include Adam in that)

Good points. But looking at the concourses I don’t think ‘turn off the taps’ generally has had much impact on those that still go.

Yes of course.

if you are playing a game at whatever standard,you don`t notice the crowd,you are concentrating for 90 minutes,bar hold ups in play,it should`nt matter if there are 50000 or 200 in the crowd,it won`t make any difference at all to the players

We dont want to be a business pursuit anymore. We want the club to be an intrinsic part of people's every day life like it was 15 years ago. We want our club to be back on the lips of everyone in the town like it was 15 years ago. We want a club that will be fighting to compete at the highest level like it was 15 years ago. We want a club that cares about the people that turn up in the wind and rain (and then be sent home again). We want a club that we can pass down generation to generation. Like we did 15 years ago. Venkys Out. Times up.

How's Edmondson playing

I.thought he put a.shift.in, I liked Leonard. Are you sure you are not thinking of Vale?

if we ar`nt going to compete for players who are going to make an impact at championship level,then you might as well just accept relegation