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Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - I Won’t Back Down

Joint best after 90 minutes** ** we have the best record by minutes played as whilst we’ve one fewer match we haven’t conceded in over two hours of abandoned games either. 🤔🧐

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cewj9051y11o Piece on Sheffield Wednesday bidder David Storch.

Absolutely. But it's ok for the Irish. Who is going to drive the snakes from Ewood?

Recruitment at this level with no money and serious competition from so many similar clubs is always tough and always throws up a few duds. It can all be helped though by a Head Coach knowing the parts he needs for his machine and obviously having a good connection with the clubs recruitment dept and directors. Some players who can only do one job can be moulded into a side or squad when blended with others, Trav a great example. If feel we've missed that so often here because the focus has always been first and foremost fit players in who can be developed and increased in value rather than build the best first 11 you possibly can. That amongst other things has seen the last 2 gaffers walk and has now landed us fighting relegation. It's about time finally some lessons were learned and the focus switched. It needn't cost the earth.

Don’t disagree but just stating that a lot of our issues are the inability to put the ball or have the quality to put the ball in the back of the net especially when on top in games, which then in turn would make for easier last 10mins of games our recruitment has been about 50% correct which isn’t good enough I agree and I also have reservations regarding the manager but my post was in relation to the defence which actually isn’t our biggest problem

The De Neve experiment has failed they tried to take a cheap left footed punt and make him into a LWB because he had good running stats. Clearly not a defensive clue in his head at this level so maybe try him in his more natural position occasionally, otherwise throw the towel in and get rid.

We have a de facto boycott - including by me for 18 months - so it will be difficult to prise away the most loyal fans. And therefore, whilst it might not the most effective tactic, it might have an impact. So good luck.

Next seasons ST sales and home turnouts will be catastrophic from the word go and there's no way that can be dressed up as anything else other than a boycott. As pointed out a few times when people are left to make their own minds up and aren't playing the martyr for either side just finding their own excuses not to go the proof will be in the pudding. Yes 5 or 6k will always be there but we'll then have dropped from 12k hardcore to half in twelve months and that cannot be ignored by anybody. Unless we get relegated then it'll just be 'shit support' of course.

James Bord is supposedly the preferred bidder for Sheffield Wednesday. Also owns Dunfermline and ex professional poker player. Owns consultancy firm Short Circuit Science, which specialises in data analytics and AI.

The call for a boycott is a starting point. I don't think there are many Rovers fans who have not heard about it - so that is a start - get people thinking, get people talking and get the spotlight on Venky's in general and Pasha in particular. It is an initial step and if most fans ignore it - as you suggest will be the case - then other options will be considered. Things that will get more people on board are a run of bad results/relegation/bad transfer dealings. All those things will happen sooner or later under the current set up but if we wait until things are that bad, the call for a boycott will just appear to be reactionary. I think it is a good idea to 'get our retaliation in first' and it shouldn't stop after the Watford game whether there is 1 person there or 20,000 there.

We've probably got the best defence in the league before 88 minutes, but we've no resilience, game management, 'match IQ' or whatever we want to call it, which has stemmed from poor investment in players and managers.

Exactly.

I don't think there is anything that can be done which hasn't already been done in the last 15 years, which isn't illegal. Fans have involved MPs, spoken to regional, national, international press, supporter federations, protested inside the ground, outside the ground, brought livestock into the ground, done planned walkouts, thrown a snowball, chanted endlessly, made banners and at least two thirds of the fan base have just stopped attending. No one outside of East Lancashire cares about the issue. I'm not aware of anything else that people can do. Emptying the stadium is the one final thing which hasn't been done.

The only point in digi tickets from their end is saving money from having to physically print and sell them. Beyond that they don't give a toss, same as most businesses.

De Neve is proof you have to have defensive awareness as a LWB. Of the current squad, I don’t think any are suited to that role, but Pickering is possibly my preferred choice of the 4 options. Followed by Hedges. It’s not like he’s cumbersome going forward, just limited. However it is fairly obvious he will leave due to wages and rubbing Gestede / Pasha up the wrong way. If we were mid table fine, but in a relegation battle not using your best assets is shocking and could prove very costly (See Nelson, Ryan)

No Rev I interviewed every fan on the way in on Saturday 🙄 It’s called ‘anecdotal’. I am telling you now that 5/6,000 people at least will be in the ground, ergo it can’t be deemed a success as a ‘boycott’. Like I said if that doesn’t matter as it’s all part of a bigger campaign, then fine (which of course begs the question, why do it at all and not focus on other things that do work in and of themselves)

Boycott the evening with Valerian.

How many match day fans did you ask on Saturday? what did they say? The concourse at half time was very busy in BBE. I posted what the people I asked said. The club shop would have been busy in the last couple of days I bet. People will be attending the Wrexham game and Charlton games as people would have bought tickets as Christmas presents.

Season ticket renewals seems to be one of the very few metrics that motivates Suhail…

It’s the start of what will almost certainly have to be a long (& divisive) campaign. …if the alternative is 15 more years of death of a thousand cuts, then…🤷‍♂️

The Christmas kit…🙂🎅

So you've spoken to a handful of people and are citing that as evidence a boycott "won't work?"

And you’ve repeatedly said how it’s a good idea when the evidence of actual fans that still go says the exact opposite. Protesting by numbers instead of thinking what will actually work. But if we don’t actually need boycotting fans for a boycott to be a success as we’ll actually judge it on having a few weeks of an odd press article before the media moves on, then fine.

Because, regardless of take up its still getting the issues into the public domain. We get it, you dont think a boycott will have much take up, you've told us nearly as often as chaddy has said he won't be boycotting. We'll have to wait and see.