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Is is bad that I'm celebrating that result because they stay below us? They'll soon overtake us like.

We’re not even playing bad tbh. Slowly we’re gelling. It’s obvious we need goals upfront and hopefully this new Icelandic Donny can provide us with a few.

Didn’t pick a good game to come up. Tavares Kargbo did not impress me at all. Sub standard. Thought Wharton looked good when he came on. Makhtar is truly awful. Clownish. Just a bad performance today

Travares is a steady eddy, not going to set the world alight...Everyone was poor today so not judging many on today's performance.

My feelings exactly. The club is being killed by stealth. We've managed to stave it off somehow but the spectre of ending up where Bolton and Wigan are (but worse) has loomed large for years. The business model of football just doesn't care about clubs like ours. We're an inconvenience as much as anything as we take support away from the City, United and Liverpool.

Ipswich equalise against Derby in the 106th minute with a pen. Travis got his usual yellow.

It wasn’t a pen. Initial contact outside the box. Rovers TV showed a freeze frame at half time.

Yep, rather play Garrett or a prospect than Tavares, he's a passenger.. Kargbo was dreadful, Tyrhs did nothing but harrass, press and make nuisance, he did nothing today.. Surely he has the attributes to do what Dolan did? Other than Hedges I thought they were all wank to be honest! I thought Cantwell tried hard. Crap!

I like Kargbo, today wasn't his day and certainly not the conditions for him. But I don't think he's a starter, much more effective off the bench.

If we'd of had 11, we may of scraped a point. Sooner Gudjohnsen comes in the better as Gueye needs to be 3rd choice. A lot has poor games but the passing today was some of the worst I've seen in a while. Hard not to be worried but red card and conditions didn't help us...We will definitely be in the mix at the bottom but hopefully these new lads can make a difference.

just 1 word "SAD" the state of affairs , the way we are run , the owners and the attendance numbers .... just "SAD"

It's been evident this season was going nowhere for some time. At least Hull showed we have some fight and we're capable of winning six pointers. We're on for a weaker season (eg Preston last season) rather than a season with an off chance of the Play Offs. Will it change - not until the ownership changes. Even then, football finance is f****d so it's an uphill battle. Nor do I see an ownership change in the next couple of years. They don't want to sell nor is anyone likely to want to spend over the odds buying a tired club in a deprived region.

We’re certainly going to need Baradji, Morishita and new Striker to hit the ground running as we’ve got about 15 season goals in us in Kargbo, Hedges, Cantwell and Ohashi. Attacking options are dirt, nobody to put the ball in the net. Kargbo and Gueye are not footballers. Gambles that didn’t work, we need to move onto the next ones and stop wasting more games with them

Yeah and the team we beat were absolutely battered at Bristol today only 4-2 but should have been 8 apparently.

@BinoBear hope you enjoyed the match as a neutral. Would be Interesting to get your take on how we looked as a team.

Norwich are really not a very good team and will be nowhere near the top 6 this season. They were all over the place at the back - we got in several times and we still can't score. I said at HT I'd be stunned if we got anything from that match, having stood through that second half I feel like any other team in the league WOULD have got something from that half with the chances created, even with ten men. That Hull game was a false dawn, because they are also clearly rubbish. Christ I hope we bring in this other striker by Monday, Big Mak was horrendous, I hope we offload him.

Is it unlucky to cast off huge amounts of Championship experience, replace them with cheap punts and then find results aren't going your way?

I don’t think the ref is the reason we lost, could have easily been 2 down before the penalty and it was a stonewell pen and red.

4 defeats in 5. Exciting times.

That was a painful watch all round, we were awful and Norwich should have been in front but for terrible finishing. Then we had a man sent off and the referee gave them a dodgy pen which should have been a free kick. We played better when Taveres went off and should have scored a couple of goals only for terrible finishing by Kargbo and Hedges. Tavares, Kargbo and Gueye all looked like they'd won a competition. Then we conceded another goal at the death by backing off. The only positives I can find are that Cantwell battled hard and Ryo looked good in the limited time we saw him, very quick and a good crosser.

Crap afternoon. Some fight in the second half but was game over when they scored. Wasn’t disastrous. Well, Gueye was. Early, but the league table is bleak already. 1 in 4 is not good enough. Huge, huge work to do.

Think we're in big, big trouble. Three games decided by penalty decisions that all went against us. We dominated Norwich with 10 men, but lost 2-0. Some managers are just unlucky. I think we're going down. Just one of those seasons.

Poor result and Mcloughin has to take a huge amount of blame even though we were second best till then. Against a tough challenge we did pretty well but the second was always likely. Think we’ll be ok this season but it’s a poor start.

The red changed the game but if we’re being honest we should have been down 2 by half. Creates some good chances in the second half but don’t have the players to put them away. Hedges and Kargbo both are above their level. The first half from Tavares was one of the worst I’ve seen. No effort, poor positioning. If that’s what we have to replace Travis we might as well start playing 5 in the back

Better forward line and we would have at least drawn here against a very underwhelming Norwich side. Decent striker needed to avoid a frustrating and potentially disastrous season, I fear.