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As I said earlier, the red card more often than not you get. The penalty more often than not you don't. But I'm more annoyed that in the last minute when defending a lead, a long ball from here.... Ends up with no-one challenging for it and being controlled by a guy with his foot in our box here.... That is non-league defending at any part of the game, let alone in that situation when we should be seeing the game out. If they'd carved us open with a great move, or a 25 yard screamer, I would have been as pissed off.

But the bank has reserved the right to ask for one.

I think the bank will be looking at a near future large Wharton instalment which is guaranteed unless Palace go bust.

I wouldn't say it was a certain red, but I'm sure it would have been given in most cases. I am sure, and it's undeniable,that it was a good goalscoring opportunity.

I couldn’t find a disclosure in the VLL accounts but the club banks with State Bank of India so I think we can assume it’s the same entity. An important point on administration - the VLL accounts specifically say that there is NO DEBENTURE securing the overdraft. The bank therefore cannot call in an administrator, as it does not have the legal right so to do. For Rovers to go into administration they would have be placed there voluntarily by the directors. (See Sheffield Weds). This means the club would have to be trading insolvently (which opens up the directors to personal legal action) & so the directors protect themselves by calling in an admin. I suspect we were getting pretty close to that point until Adam was sold. That relieved the pressure. That’s why Waggott kept trumpeting the fact that the bills being paid on time was a cause for celebration. The increase in O/D is interesting - because from my days in corporate lending, an unsecured loan of £12m would usually require at the very least some form of inter-company guarantee or personal guarantees from the directors to “focus the minds” of the owners. If this O/D is truly, completely unsecured then SBI must really value the group relationship & be making plenty of money out of the arrangement fees.

Buy it & frame it 😉

Did you read my piece in the last 4000 Holes fanzine? 😆

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Average operating loss for the five years pre Venkys £860,000 Average operating loss under the Venkys £16.12 million Oh, and to put that £212 million ‘benefit’ into context… In the past 7 years Brighton have received £828.7 million more broadcasting income than we have.

They'll probably do their homework on Gudjohnsen, that's why we need Ohashi, and others chipping in.

Official wording is foul if a player- carelessly, recklessly or using excessive force trips a player not seeing it fits. Plus I’m sorry but the 2 Japanese lads go down hella easy at times

Nah it's a little low at times because he plays forward, progressive passes that can carve chances, not constant safety first sideways passes like most midfielders.

So Preston in a similar loss making situation... Just the Hemmings family covering it like Venkys did (pre overdraft) for us. I did a bit of research just now and while on a smaller scale Preston are very similar to us in model with owners supplying cash to make them viable. Basically in the Championship it seems pretty universally you need an owner to put £10M+ a year to keep the club solvent (unless you have player sales or parachute payments), theres not a single club in the Championship in recent years (maybe except Brentford 10 years back) who have managed to get by over a 5 year period without massive cash support. Really want to get rid of Venkys but how do we find owners who will write off tens of millions? Is there any club we could look to as an example on how to cut the dependency on (potentially crazy) owners? It looks pretty bleak. Personally Id take relegation to have a go without Venkys, but its very troubling to see losing £10M per season is the norm in the Championship, and i wonder how we can get stability in that environment.

Fans haven't been as harsh on anybody sine though.

I remember they got in a little huff when I pointed that out to them last year. It was pretty funny.

Intent doesn’t come into it. If a player is tripped it’s a foul

His passing accuracy needs to improve

The last thing those morons need is more convolution

If we all went and all asked the same question…

That goal at Derby sums up everything about him. The current team need to watch this video. We used to score from corners back then. Hard and fast delivery into the danger area and attack the ball.

My chest size - 60 years ago !

I was hoping our long time Burnley contributors would come on at some point and give us the lowdown on this seasons going on at Turf Moor. They were on here more than I was last season, almost on a daily basis. What can possibly have gone wrong ?

My first impression on seeing the highlights was it wasn’t worth a red card. He was too far out from goal and the cover was coming across. Having said that there will an incident exactly like that somewhere this weekend and it will be a red card.

I'm on it.

Slot's tactics are slower than Klopp. He doesn't want to press high from minute 1. They are playing less long balls than last season and want to the ball more at the back. Missing Trent at right back cos Frimpony hasn't been fit enough. Maybe he needs to play Isak and Etketie together up front. Writz just off them.