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Yeah once the window closes that includes loans. A number of years ago, they had an extra window for loans but thay has long since gone. You can only then sign free agents and they would have had to be free agents when the window closed.

What do you mean? I don't think age comes into it at all. I suspect what you're thinking of is youth players making loan moves after our window closes, but that's because they're moving to non-league teams who have a different window system for loans.

Prediction: Alan Browne will come in, along with two (far too young/raw) PL loans join last minute - at GK and LW/RW. Leonard goes, Pears goes (or is mutually terminated), and unfortunately, I'm going to predict Tyjon gets sold to Arsenal. Batty and another kid gets loaned out too. ... and Junior Hoilett signs a new long-term contract!

If Wrexham do get Sheaf and potentially Vyner, theyve had an absolutely unbelievable window. They have signed Callum Doyle which was a brilliant signing, as well as Conor Coady. Add Vyner on top and theyve made a new back 3. Theyve also signed a left wing back for a decent fee who was playing in Serie A last season. In midfield, both Sheaf and O'Brien are stand outs at this level and with James, Thomason, Rathbone and Dobson theyve plenty of further experience. Then in attack, theyve added to Sam Smith with Broadhead, Windass, Moore and Hardie. Their main issues aside from gelling it all together are Danny Ward in net who has instantly become number 1 and is woeful, and I still have question marks over whether Parkinson is the man to get the best out of it.

Seeing as we arent signing a keeper. I cant believe im saying this. But I hope Pears doesnt go and he regains his place as sub keeper.

No chance we get in two. Even if we do we’ll probably fail the paperwork because if we can’t sort that out at 11 pm, crikey I wonder what would happen at 7pm

Don't think so. You can sign players outside the window who are free agents.

Just looked him up. We paid £1.1m for him in 2011 when in the Premier League and he made 1 appearance before being loaned out in 2012 to Stevenage then Oldham/Rotherham/Ross County and Port Vale before having his contract terminated in 2015. Guess his agent would have been happy enough.

I'm interested to see who goes out. Leonard sounds about done but Pears will be looking. Younger guys on loan have longer to make moves if I remember rightly.

my predictions is for 2 signings tomorrow roll on 7pm

Hopefully one more player on the pitch than last Saturday's second half! I'd move Cantwell back alongside Tronstad as Tavares has been absolutely woeful and figure out how to shuffle things around up top for Moroshita to start. Cantwell's fitness and willingness to get stuck in seems to have improved a lot. Anyone have any timeline on when Baradji will be fit, or failing that when we we will find out any info on his injury?

Prediction for deadline day. No signings, the biggest news being Leonard being sold and one or two young lads like Batty going out on loan. A brief period where someone (probably Alan Nixon) links us to a deal that was never happening, the rumour lasts an hour or two before fizzling out.

Remember when we gave Sheff U 1 million for a lad named Slew with the intention to loan him back but i think he ended up somewhere else but on a very good Rovers contract. Hmmm....

Probably, the payroll includes more than players! The less the players are on, more of the cake for others possibly?

I'm generally against filling up the squad with epl loan cast offs (I still get cold sweats thinking about Mola), but I'm supprised we haven't gone after 1 or 2 loans. A pacey winger or even a keeper so that Pears can be sold?

Along the lines of St Andrews pre that takeover. Hadn't that place suffered from chronic under investment as well or something.

Ok fair enough. Id still rather any available funding was put towards someone who can contribute now.

Won't be the Darwen End for all those nice away fans.

He is not good enough for the Championship now (in my opinion) * He is getting games at Wednesday due to their issues and them having lost half their squad without being able to replace them, not because he is currently a Championship standard player * He is only 20, not 21 until the season is over, & does have the potential to be a decent Championship player in the future

I predict that within three years there will be at least one stand permanently closed.

But if he's good enough for Wednesday in the Championship he must surely be good enough for us? And as others have said - we aren't Man City or Chelsea, we havent the luxury of buying players to loan them out, we need quality now.

Knowing this lot they'll shut the BBE and send everybody to the riverside. They seem to be actively trying to reduce people buying tickets in there anyway.

It’s kind of by accident but yes…it’s cleaner 😉 @StubbsUK

He seems to be developing well along the same lines Hayden Carter did. We might have a gem on our hands after all.

He'd be behind Ohashi, Gudjohnson and Gueye for us (in theory), for his development he needs regular gametime.