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They’ve already got this season’s season ticket money - a boycott of next season’s season tickets would definitely make waves. That is the only metric that seems to resonate with Suhail.

If we carry on in the current vein at home for the rest of the season we'd end up with about 12 points from our 23 home games. Meaning we'd need at least 38 points from our 23 away games to be reasonably confident of staying up. I'd imagine that's something akin to automatic promotion form or even better required away from home.

Probably not the right thread but as good as any.... A thought has crossed my mind, are Rovers in more financial strife than we realise? It feels to me that the discounts on shirts, clothing ranges, hospitality and other areas are significantly more prevalent than they have been before. There's also the recent oddly structured flexible ticket, weirdness around a 150th anniversary shirt, cost cutting on the anniversary celebration itself. We're used to ridiculousness over the last 15yrs but that's never translated yet to what appears to be a desperate need to get cash into the club. Throw in the relatively recent apparent finalisation of a court case, possible venkys share price drop and what can only be described as a complete reluctance to hire a CEO and I just wonder if things are worse then we know

I wholly agree about his arrogance. I could live with that if he was getting results but at home we are a million miles off it. His comments about Carter and Gueye plus threatening to walk out of a press conference because he was asked about relegation are not the traits of humility.

He's just bang average working with a light bang average squad. When everyone is fit and the opposition is similar we'll get some results but whenever people are missing or questions are asked by another side that need answering he won't deliver. As pointed out his core style is more suited to counter attacking away from home and we have no flair whatsoever at home. Hopefully adding the set piece coach starts to add something regularly at both ends.

There’s four arses that never turn up.

Doesn't stop him being "integrated into the squad". He was training with the side from the international break. If you'd said he lacks match fitness that's different, but from the way he's been talked about he should be playing 60 minutes and coming off rather than letting TGH (who is an honest lad) huff and puff for most of the game.

For comparison 1966 relegated home record 6-1-14 2012 relegated side 6-1-12 Brian Kidd and John Pickering both had 5 wins but drew more. So if he doesn't reach 19 points will have worst record in last sixty years.

He was injured remember.

No chance the ‘sold’ tickets were 13,500, so 4,000+ bought walk ons? For a red button midweek in November? That’s considerably more than any Saturday game this season (bar Derby).

Not so sure he’s Kean or Coyle bad, but he’s not very good either. I can’t warm to the guy either. Seems very arrogant.

It’s tickets sold, t’was ever thus. We know that isn’t the real number of bums on seats. I’ve been counted for every Tuesday night home match, but I haven’t attended one….

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Normally i'd agree but my point here is it looks like the finance guy V's stuck on the board quite recently is just here to run the lowest budget model possible for them. Whilst keep us just above the admin line and second or thirdly keeping us in this league in order to maximise future player sale prices. I genuinely think the dwindling crowds will just be seen as - or should i say passed off as - a combination of collateral damage from cost of living crisis,fan favs wanting out, weather and oh just Rovers typical support (they used to get 7k) etc. In short anything and everything they can blame except the main drivers of it. So to counter this prices go up, more silly cat A games like Wrexham and come Jan he'll look to shave more thousands per week off the wage bill. Because that's his job nothing else, a reactionary to the balance sheet not the football. The lack of footfall just justifies his position imo and that's what i'm trying to get across. These loons will run the club into the ground in front of 5k if that's what it becomes.

Trouble is anyone with anything about them wants out after 6 months. Depends how long your definition of short term is.

So they are saying aside from QPR's merry band 4 k bought tickets ? There needs to be some serious questions asked now about what they are fabricating down there. The last crowd almost identical to that in the home sections was about 11k ish i think. The JW holds what 9.5k ? Could easily group everybody in the ground in there last night including the away fans. The actual number of turnstile clicks in the 3 home stands must've been sub 9k.

Plenty of half rows empty on jw upper

Looked like there were about 6k on on TV.

13,571

Just to reinforce the above, I checked and we've only been in front in ONE out of 8 games at Ewood this season at HT. (Sheff Utd. which we went on to lose 3-1) The one game we won (Southampton) we were behind until the 76th minute. Put another way we've only been ahead for 74 of the 720 minutes (plus ET) of League Football at Ewood Park this season. 40 of those were in one game (Birmingham) which we contrived to lose right at the end anyway. How on earth is the atmosphere meant to be rocking, or even vaguely positive, under those circumstances?

How do clubs ever sign players in January transfer windows who then go straight into starting line-ups then? He's been around the squad all season. Surely he understands the system. If he's significantly better than TGH and Montgomery then he's worth starting for the improvement in quality.

Again, I dont think that's fair. A core group will always go no matter what - whether it's 3k or 8k - and I applaud them for their loyalty and dedication. I mean 2k even bought tickets for a season they couldnt attend and even after Waggott put prices up.! Arguably however, having a smallish number of fans in attendance who've been brow beaten into submission by watching absolute shite over a period of years and knowing that at the end of the day there's no ambition within the Club for things to improve is the worst possible situation. Hypothetically a complete boycott might have a better chance of shifting the owners and their acolytes as might a stadium packed to the rafters every week with 30 thousand people screaming non stop dogs abuse at the 2 stooges and displaying anti Venky's messages. For the present however it's 100% for the players to entertain the fans and give them something to shout about, not the other way round. The players are being paid very handsomely to do a job and the fans are paying good money to watch them. At the moment they can't even be bothered putting in any effort in the first half of games at Ewood and any improvement generally only comes in the second half or late on in the game when trying to retrieve the situation and salvage a result. At least, regardless of ability, come out on the front foot and give the fans a bit of something to get their teeth into.

I did not criticize, what I said was that I didn't feel sorry for the people who bought season tickets. Everyone has the right to make their own choices. They don't deserve either criticism or plaudits for making their own decisions.

Nevermind bottling it, we’re a club with a history of pushing the big boys around when they come into our yard. We’re 20 years removed from doing the double over Manchester fucking United. Now we cower at the likes of Birmingham and Swansea when they come here.

Attendance anyone?