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Yes, against Birmingham we played like the away team, in the first half against Norwich at home it felt similar. We can't cower against Ipswich and let them take control of the game, or we'll get smoked like Sheffield United did on Friday.

Its was K-Hod point not mine. I would give Mowbray the job cos of the rebuilding job he did here and Sunderland who he got into the playoffs.

I still have nightmares of Swansea away vs 10 men where Buckley played as a false 9 by himself as Giles whipped in crosses to nobody.

Obviously getting wages down is very much the plan. But dont let them fool you into thinking this summers overhaul is part of any plan. They wanted to keep all of the players that left and planned far less in the way of a squad change. Do we deserve more than 6 points? The game that seems to cause people to think we are hard done by is the Birmingham game. There was little in the game either way for 85 minutes, just one moment of quality. But it was solely down to our naivety and our poor decision making that led to a defeat. I still dont get how we can end that game feeling hard done by. Otherwise, West Brom and Norwich were deserved defeats. Hull we clearly deserved to win. I would also strongly suggest that we deserved to win yesterday, we took the lead and saw the game out very well. But if you argued that we deserved more v Birmingham, you could probably say that on quality of chances and territory it was pretty even. Your general point at the end is fair by the way.

South coast derby on. This might be the kiss of death but Pompey are taking the game to Southampton and look the better side. Not much to fear in the league this season!

The Blades were my surefire bet for promotion this season - I think I even had them winning the league. Shows how much I know 😄 Selles has turned wine into water and was obviously a poor appointment but Wilder's return (again) is bizarre and is a poor reflection on the Sheff Utd owners

By that logic Hughes should be getting poached by a team chasing Europe due to doing it with us.

Does it matter? Still on his managerial CV isn't it?

I was on the League Liner as well. On the open end, with a crisp box on my head to keep off the rain.

But when was Mowbray with WBA? Best part of 20 years back?

Wilder hasn't apart from Sheffield United just like Mowbray with WBA. 1 each isn't it?

Not a boxing fan but a huge and untimely loss

Not sure but you'd assume it would come from the home side if not ITV

That’s irrelevant to the point I’m making though. Mowbray hasn’t got a recent track record of being promoted from this league, Chris Wilder has. I wouldn’t go back either, but money talks and I imagine it will feed his ego too.

What a colossal waste of money that was. Still, Selles had one of the worst starts I think I've ever seen at a club that was supposed to be in the promotion picture. After Friday's debacle they didn't have much choice. Wilder is the obvious choice to stabilise things, as by all accounts he left on good terms and has essentially been on a well paid break for a few months.

Mowbray rebuilt Rovers and did an excellent job, I think Wilder is crazy for going back again but its his club so that's probably why

Why would they want to appoint Mowbray, if they want to get promoted?

Wilder is crazy going back there. I think they should have gone Mowbray personally

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/breaking-ricky-hatton-46-found-32473021.amp Just been announced that Ricky Hatton has died, absolutely gutted at that news…..

It is looking there is a lot of dross in the league , when are Sheffield Wednesday going to get a points deduction ?

Obviously we are basing opinions both positive and negative very early on here, as its all we have to go on. For example, Gudjohnsen on a promising half an hour. But it appears a mixed bag. Gestede also comes across unprofessionally and arrogantly. Alebiousu, Morishita, McLaughlin and Miller to varying degrees also appear promising additions. But equally, he has signed a player out injured for months and also De Neve and Henriksson have appeared to be well off the standard so far. Tavares has also really struggled. But obviously the main issue has been the abject inability to hold on to any of our existing important players, with pathetic offers of the same wage and just an extra year. I suppose he isnt the main person to blame for that but Broughton managed it.

ACD scored a really good goal here and a couple in friendlies I recall, the lad clearly had some talent but was missing in action too often in this league

There were almost 1000 in attendance which is about the average I think. As usual they were vocal which was appreciated by the players and staff. Edited to add this.

An early assessment of the season so far is that the majority of our new signings are pretty good and more than capable at this level. We are not as bad as we think and look to be on course for a mid table finish. Lots of dross in this league and certainly looks to be 3 worse teams than us. Goals and creativity remain a concern so scoring the first goal in games will be crucial.