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Some people stating "we don't know the truth about Trav" and similarly people are talking about the player liaison officer stating "she's out of order for saying that". Essentially on a hiding to nothing because there's no universal way to approach it that would appease every single fan. My view on these matters are always the same. Whether you believe what VI has said or what Trav has stated at times (e.g. the lack of a contract offer). Both will have their own agenda for their own reasons, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle.

I suspect you're right, but to be honest it's far too early to be making a call on that. It's undoubtedly a gamble, and not one I'm at all comfortable with. I would have kept Batth and Weimann, but being hard headed I can see the logic of standing your ground with contracts for players of their age. VI clearly wants an athletic, energetic team, so you shouldn't be held to ransom for players who don't even fit in with that (assuming that's what Different kettle of fish with Brittain, Travis and if rumours are to be believed, Hyam. Gambling on their replacements and getting it wrong could easily be the difference between a comfortable season and one where we end up going down.

Personally think it’s getting stupid, if they know something us fans don’t know then say it, instead of the cryptic bullshit causing more unrest between the fan base.

That's why you NEED a good goalkeeper.

He has been honest and told it like it was,, that he wasn't rocking a perfectly comfortable boat floating steadily after he plugged many leaks. So he's basically confirmed he was under no pressure nor expectation from above to do anything else therefore he was doing his job to the best of his ability. Just the same as he had anywhere else and would've done had he stayed at Sunderland or Brum. I doubt very much they'd be in the Prem if he stayed there and at the same time Brum would never have gone to league 1 briefly. He is the ultimate steady Eddie and that comes with both pros and cons. Some Rovers fans though still can't handle the fact he was happy going nowhere and saw no harm in it for a club like us, even when he goes on a podcast confirming it.

Thumbs up. Where's the reactions gone

That’s why you have a goalkeeper.

This is why I'll never get carried away under this lot. Even if Ismael pulls off a minor miracle with our new cohort and we're in and around the top six come the new year, it means nothing. We will never get promoted under Venky's - they and Pasha will see to that. Just as they have done on multiple occasions already.

He's also taking credit for Adam Whartons debut on Big Sams podcast.

I think it was 'tanker' and he's ultimately proven to be right. Granted we've had anchors like him weighing us down.

I've got no problem with a Manager being about the players / his staff (heaven knows Eustace was!), just don't verbalise it! The fans will turn on you in a second.

To be fair all those you have named bar Lenihan went on to play in the top flight, something they wouldn't have done if they hung around here for any longer. Think it's a bit of a myth that nobody ever achieves anything when leaving here, playing in the top flight is more than this sorry effort of a club will ever do.

Who replace her?

Yes but I wouldn't call out the workplace, i'd call out the senior management.

We've been down this delusional track before. Remember when Mowbray was here? People convincing themselves we were building sustainably, following a plan, working normally. Then we had the Broughton / JDT experiment and that was another occasion of us acting normally and putting in place a structure that would take us somewhere and last. They made sure that lasted all of 12 months before they smashed it to smithereens. We completely changed track under Eustace to a traditional model of bringing in short term relatively cheap options and relying on our established players, we made sure that was abandoned after 8 months by appointing Gestede over the top of him and refusing to extend any contracts. Now we are on to experiment 4 in the space of 4 years. Might work, probably won't because even if it goes well the ownership/regime will either introduce further budget cuts or remove those overseeing it and go down a different path again in the near future. It isn't normal, it isn't healthy, it isn't sustainable. The only thing it is doing is (in theory) cutting losses every year whilst the club is being hollowed out from within with good people being forced out and replaced with nonentities who don't understand the club. On the topic of cost cuts despite all the evidence pointing that way I still wouldn't be surprised to see losses exceed £15 million again, that's the one constant here under Venkys.

If there's one thing that should be obvious by now, it's that even when the club appears to be running "sensibly", the owners will find away to sabotage everything in due course. It's as inevitable as our annual post-Christmas collapse.

We were excellent v Hull once we found a foothold in the game and settled down but lets not forget if it wasn't for Toth we'd have comfortably been a goal or two down.

Either he really believes this guff and is truly deluded. Or he knows that spouting this crap makes certain people believe he is some sort of visionary and will keep getting him high paying jobs for the time being.

Essentially he was/is in it for the players & staff (people that he knows personally) rather than the club & fans (which almost seem like "abstract ideas" to him) That doesn't make him a horrible person, I just think he has the wrong view of which of those is more important if you are employed as a football manager/head coach

Heavily implied....

It is smarter than letting players leave on a free. That is undeniable.

She does have a right to have her say but saying I’m glad we’re out doesn’t really say much. Why are you glad your out?

Then have your say - don't put out cryptic "glad we're both out of there 🤪" posts on socials. That stuff happens in every walk of life and in every walk of life people move on for other jobs - as Brittain et al have done. A select handful have called them snakes, but then a select handful emailed the GM of the Miami Dolphins and wished his daughter died of cancer - so, y'know, there's nutters everywhere.

Amorim's post match interview sounded like a man who has given up all hope. Implied the players weren't playing for him. Personally think it's nonsense when a manager at that level is tied to one system and can't adapt.

Well, I don't know about bitter but footballers and greed go together like cheese and pickle. I don't know if we'll ever get the full Trav story BUT if he did refuse to train and play then that was bang out of order. He was under contract and being paid sums most of us can only dream of. He might have been pissed a new contract offer either wasn't forthcoming or wasn't very good but it works both ways. Like loads of other footballers he can then choose to run his contact down and leave on a free. All the power is with the players these days as far as I'm concerned.