It's the same old same old. If we find a real gem - we get Play Offs. If the signings are duds and we get injuries - we go down. The likely scenario is recruitment is ok and we finish about 10th. This has been the recipe largely for 7 years. With PSR and parachute payments automatic promotion is not attainable for a club in our position. The club's best shot of getting back to the PL is to get a bit of luck and sneak into the Play Offs like Huddersfield or Blackpool did. With the poor ownership and current climate, buying another season in the Championship with our recruitment model year after year isn't actually that bad. Yes it's frustrating, yes I want to see more vision and development of the club. However, it's better than being where Wigan and Reading are atm. It's unambitious - but let's just just get a squad together for next season that's capable of comfortably staying up.

In a strange way its consistency - which is keeping us in the Championship!

Yes exactly, stop digging. What you said made no sense. What are we supposed to do with Preston North End? Swallow them? Grind them up into a powder and snort them? Inject them into the vein in our neck? It made no sense, but we got what you meant. Why you wouldn't just accept that I don't know.

He hasn't been here long. Or, apparently, asked around much before joining. He'll learn. It will break him. He'll leave. They'll find the next naive out of work manager and the joyous cycle will repeat.

The thing is, it implies that their current ticketing policies will definitely generate more income. For example, abolish this early bird shite and you would have a full summer whereby its much more likely that people will eventually decide to buy season tickets. Also, you are always battling quantity v price and hitting a sweet spot. Reducing prices will increase quantity short term, so its getting not only that balance. But realising that increasing numbers short term will likely get more people in the habit to then buy season tickets going forward, as well as more additional purchases eg things like food/drink and merchandise.

I found myself highly irritated by these comments from Yasir Sufi (who once had a great reputation for doing sterling community work, and shouldn't have moved into this commercial role): “So we can't afford to lose a quarter of a million pounds in season ticket income to be competitive on the football pitch." Yes we fucking can! We probably spent more than that on the pointless Dennis loan. We threw away orders of magnitude more than that by letting the contracts of numerous saleable assets run out over the last few years. We brought in even larger orders of magnitude more by selling Wharton, Szmodics, Gallagher, Raya's sell-on clause, the impending Wharton sell-on clause, etc. The owners are fucking billionaires who are allegedly happy to fund us and only held back by that pesky FFP (or I would say that pesky perpetual court case, but we've been assured that's not an issue even though their funding has now become the minimum). On top of which, the reduced ticket revenue is hardly just down to a lower price. Every year, the fanbase becomes more and more disillusioned with the farcical cancer that presides over the club. Every time we are poised for the playoffs in January and the board and owners sabotage us with incompetence and a vacuum of ambition, more fans finally think 'fuck this I'm off'. But no, fuck all that, lets suck every penny out of this deprived northern town and chase more of our dwindling fanbase away forever because 250k is gonna make any fucking difference to our competitiveness, when sales amounting to tens of millions don't impact our fucking budget!

Yes, an under 12 price isn’t breaking the bank but it has still not far from doubled in price - as has the over 12 price, £50 to £90-£100.

More like 90% of it not done a week before the season starts. The 10% that is done will be the Markanday extra year option 😂

£40 for the grandson in JW lower, I know it's gone up a bit but can't really knock that.

Must be. The season they rocked up, we had an average attendance of 20k+ and the highest prices ST in the BBE was £199. Funny that.

I think that is why they were checking tickets for months - they were adamant that people were cheating the system.

Classic management term in textbooks 😉

That's 7 games out of 23 then if this season is anything to go by.

Had to laugh at Ismael saying he wants 90% of incoming business done by the first day of pre season.

Because otherwise there’s no cash flow to pay anybody in June, or something.

£449 for a ST in the BBE in phase 2. Absolute insanity. Why are they trying to empty the ground?

we arent bothered about any other clubs..season tickets stayed the same FFS they've gone up just over 50 quid You are in a different universe chadster

Nest of Vipers lining their own pockets..Venkys mis-management has allowed this situation to occur and flourish.

Not to be too much a Debby downer but we're not signing anyone till a fortnight from the start of the season, and even then it'll be a drawn out process till the window end. More than likely too that whatever incoming requires offsetting against a leaver. In years gone by we had assets departing with significant wages but the law of diminishing returns suggests we reach a final hurrah on that front too. For my own sanity, I remain in the 'unknown french signing' camp ahead of the 'veteran/lower league punt' for nothing more than the novelty of it all

Chaddy..defender of the faith till the bitter end!

And not even the 2 years you predicted, not guaranteed anyway....1, with the option of another. Which gives us the opportunity to 'sign' him again next summer and fill a role again. Transfer market genius!

Have to say, of those I’ve met, Duncan and K-Hod are exactly who we need on the fans forum. Both passionate and not afraid to ask the hard questions and do so doggedly.

We won't get anything for Pears. Not in this game.

our midfield is going to be stacked next year😀what you construe it to stacked with is completely up to you,the rest of the forumites!!!!!!!!

Its happening