I'm not paying anything to go into a bar when there's perfectly good pubs in the vicinity it's them we should be supporting

I know right?? incredibly bizarre decision. What they gonna do next ban beer? Wait delete that...

poor bobby had to get by on thin air for transfer fees,thought he did an absolutely fantastic job given his resources,we really should have been promoted in 84/85,top of the league at christmas but no reinforcements when injuries and tiredness kicked in😥sounds familiar,though in fairness the club was absolutely brassic at that time

Nothing I wouldn't have thought.

It's why I say we have the worst owners in football. They've not burned as brightly as some, but there seems to be no end to them - no light at the end of the tunnel.

Mckinnon played away at Sunderland I think -for some bizarre reason I was there, a mate of mine made a totally random decision to scream up there in his XR3 i about 3 hours before kick off. I think you're probably right with the date of the demo against Saxton and it's the one Merce and I are referring to.

A family worth multiple billions can't kick an overpromoted middle manager out? Just what does he have on them?!

A shame the ownership isn't one of them. Still as long as they remain embroiled in an investigation and Court proceedings in India I will continue to hold out faint hope of it being brought to an end in the not-too-distant future.

Yeah that seems to be the only thing that fits. Everything about how this club runs itself is bizarre... Sell, sell, sell every saleable asset. Sell your top scorer, the captain, the training ground, all at cut price. Generate millions in sales. Don't ever reinvest proceeds so you have more assets to sell, just keep selling. Don't offer reasonable contracts. Don't spend more in the hopes of attaining PL payoff (despite repeatedly missing it by a fraction). Just don't reinvest, this is important. Get manager in. Win them over with talk of 'the project'. Don't keep to the plan. Make false promises. Make bizarre statements in the press showing complete lack of inter-departmental communication. Deliberately antagonise said manager (especially if club seems to be doing alright). Persuade them to leave to another club (usually of lesser standing) out of seeming despair. Get new manager in. Rinse repeat, this is important. Run club into the ground. Allow agents to take massive cuts. Allow spurious foreign court cases to be used to justify poor running of club, but give no concrete answers. Make statements in the press saying you don't want to sell, despite no seemingly good reason to keep club. Keep letting club decline. Make bizarre and totally unprofessional transfer U-turns at the last minute. Blame the fax machine (TWICE !). Dash club's legacy and reputation. Allow attendances and loyal paying customer base to decline. Don't be transparent about who is actually running the club. Don't have ambition or use resources to improve club, this is important. Tinfoil hat on here, but imo either we're being kept for accounting purposes or just Pasha et al have Venkys completely in the dark, and are just using this club to keep their pockets lined. Nothing else makes sense - I cannot believe that a multi-billion pound enterprise runs its subsidiaries this poorly. Venkys (and their merry men) out!!!

A lot has changed at Ewood since the restrictions were put onto any money they send over.

in my opinion ...started of as an ego trip , evolved to a milking job , now a mess to kick down the road

I remember a demo against Saxton following a bad defeat that would be November /December 86, he was sacked after a couple bad Xmas results, one being at Hull and it that was bloody cold, I think Mckinnon played..

Errrrr.......I think you've answered your own question there!

So if that's the case - what's in it for Venky's - nothing whatsoever seemingly other than the opportunity to run up a mountain of debt secured against their assets.

Is that an extra £15 every time you go in Jack's or a one off £15 charge as part of a seasonal upgrade to your Blues membership?

Nobody ...i mean NOBODY can and will boot him... not even Venkys ... its pasha's PROJECT ...Venky's are on for the ride

After we got relegated to the old Div 3 in 1978 (?) everyone flooded onto the pitch to show support for caretaker boss John Pickering who,despite being dealt a very difficult hand and being given no financial support, was actually very popular. Could it have been that? Then we got Howard. What a turnaround.

That's right. No thought for reinvestment. No thought for improving the team. No thought for promotion. He also arrogantly said "I'm not going to ask them for £15m-20m, it's not sustainable". The context to this...he stated in a previous meeting that he was going to ask the owners for a bigger budget for this summer. When questioned on this by Glen at the fans forum meeting, the above was his retort. Pasha also stressed that the budget will not be affected at all by player sales. Even in the hypothetical scenario that Gueye was sold for £20m, the budget does not increase. It remains fixed as it is. So lets get this straight: 1) Pasha has never asked the owners about using a percentage of transfer fees received to reinvest into the squad. 2) Transfer fees received do not impact on the budget at all. It will not increase. 3) Pasha believes spending more doesn't guarantee a jump in League position (apply the same wisdom to the idea of promotion) 4) Pasha did not ask the owners for a bigger budget and won't ask for £15m-20m as it's not sustainable. On the latter...he seems to be deciding off his own back what is, and what isn't, sustainable. Why doesn't he let them decide that? Also, how many times over the last 10 years has he had this thought and therefore refrained from asking the owners for money? I wonder... He's on £500k a year and has been here for 10 years. Why is he here and for what purpose? He isn't advising the owners on promotion, so what advice is he giving? There's something not adding up here. Without any doubt, our fanbase must unite to drive this obstacle out. The podcast with Glen is a great starting point to educate people on what we are dealing with. There's no way Pasha is on our side here, for me. He isn't Rovers. His arrogance, his dismissive answers and his disdain for Rovers fans attending a meeting shows that. He needs booting out.

I posted last week that just when you think we couldn't sink any lower they somehow seem to manage to surprise us time after time. This is only a relatively small thing but arguably it's another of those times. Just so we know exactly what we're talking about, how much is membership for Blues this season and how much was it last season? Im guessing that you still have to pay the same membership fee as last season and they've simply removed the Sky offering rather than them removing Sky and scrapping any membership fee by way of compensation? Despite all the old tosh about offering "great matchday value".

It’s the kind of thing that would even raise your eyebrow if you heard about it at a Darwen or Clitheroe FC. I mean, Blackburn Rovers and it can’t even pay the Sky bill… everything Jack built and we are now back to Bobby Saxton fishing the spare balls out the River Darwen levels… yet with billionaire owners.

I’m clearly biased but they are quite superb. Put a GANT logo on it & that sells for £150 😁

Exactly, a normal football club keeps and extends the core group. Let go of a few who won’t be good enough and add to it, nope just rip the core group 🤦‍♂️ just waiting for the exciting summer to commence🙃

The occasion I was on about was in the 70s. In 1990 I was serving in the RAF in Germany

The majority of fans are annoyed but it’s pretty simple no matter what the fans do or plan to do venkys have no intention of selling until they recoup id say 80/90% of their losses it seems on the above it’s so obvious multiple clubs do the exact same millwall being a good example

SBI is STATE BANK OF INDIA , instrument could be BG(BANK GUARANTEE) or SBLC or any type of promissory of payment ...another bank gives OD or LOAN TO VALUE on this ...spend & milk till exhaust ... declare loss ... SBI Goes after collateral... they will writ of stay from courts... case goes on and on and on and on... budget cuts happening for 2 reasons possible ... restrictions due to mishandling court case or funds dried up (udder is empty) i can't think of IV..... again purely speculative ...my first boss taught me "FOLLOW THE MONEY, YOU'LL FIND THE MOTIVE" E.g inflated agent fees, inflated running cost(kickbacks) or even letting contract lapse so division in next contract agent fees .... i could be imagining all this ..paranoid schizophrenia