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Norwich are a far better side than us on that performance. Who are worse or as bad? Pompey? Oxford? WBA? We're down

Gestede should be ashamed of himself

I've said it a couple of times recently. If we drop this time round and are still owned by the Venkys this club will be down in the lower leagues for a generation, we won't bounce back. It will be proper dire stuff. Gates will be lower than they were on Saturday. When we're not in a promotion race and we're stuck in midtable L1 or worse, the novelty will wear off very quick. We'll be like Wigan. Sadly it might take that happening to get more people to boycott or protest against the owners. If relegation comes this season it will be catastrophic in the next few years for this club.

That English referee was Welshman Clive Thomas, but your point stands

WBAs form is as bad as ours, I wouldn’t be ruling them out yet. I doubt Leicester will end up in trouble but you never know where a bad managerial appointment might lead.

Fantastic bit of detective work there M_B if I do say so myself. The art of deduction at its simplest

We're doomed. Clubs around us picking up points and we have 2 home wins all season. And there's no way we're sacking VI. Genuinely think we have to start preparing for lge 1. And it's fully deserved sadly.

4 points clear of us with a much better goal difference. They won’t be in the mix whatsoever as many of us thought. Relegation gets more likely by the day. But don’t fear, Val still isn’t worried.

Doesn't matter. Will be ripped apart in the summer when we're likely preparing for lge 1. Squad will look very different next season (even worse than our current squad)

If the approach is true, then either they weren't serious about buying, or Venkys weren't for selling.

Makama is tearing up the Championship with Norwich. He's a powerful central striker aged 21 signed for £1.2m from Lincoln at the beginning of August. Gestede should have been all over that earlier in the summer.

15 minutes to go, so hopefully I jinx it, but Norwich have turned a corner as predicted by many and will be leaving us in the dust shortly

Norwich certainly not going down. It's now 2 from us, Oxford, Pompey, Charlton. I think WBA will have enough to claw away and Leicester have too much quality even though they will have a big points deduction. It's looking grim. We have by far the worst manager. Us and Oxford will be the two to drop imo.

I’m sorry but this post makes absolutely no sense. Please feel to expand upon why relegating an English football club will make a global bank decide to write off loans in a different country secured on assets in that different country. Also, please explain the legal mechanics of how V’s will then go straight to liquidation (bankruptcy is for individuals not companies BTW) without bothering to go into administration & why/how that is beneficial for them? It’s really simple IMO…V’s have reduced the budget (probably at the suggestion of Suhail) & as wage bill & league position are closely correlated in football, the inevitable result ultimately will be relegation.

Some very rich people don’t like wasting any part of their wealth. The Raos might be wired differently but it’s not because of how much money they have.

"Aaron", like "Madonna", I guess?

Folks with Rao wealth are wired completely differently.

Palace falling apart at the moment. On current form of all the teams in the bottom half, they will go down.

Topple Pasha by him missing his financial targets. That is part of the strategy.

Don't do it, Adam. Don't make me hate you.

They're arrogant, spoiled, billionaire brats who inherited Daddy's business empire and haven't a clue. There's zero chance a letter gets past their secretary's secretary without going straight in the bin. They wouldn't lower themselves to interacting with people like us.

Thanks for the usual wisdom, I had never realised that was allowed on a professional contract, as opposed to youth/non-league players. But I suppose it makes sense if it's just between u21s.

I was thinking pen and paper, proper old school 😄

Glenn has his WhatsApp I think!

Has anyone tried writing an old fashioned letter directly to the owners?