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THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD BE SHOT FOR!

Inspired by the pathetic Halsey I'd like to have personally pulled the trigger on

1. Durkin for being the only person on the pitch, the bench, as well as the 60,000 in the ground and the millions of Sky viewers to see anything wrong with Sherwoods goal at Old Trafford.

2. Whoever sent Wilcox off at Nottingham for dropping the ball onto the ground (presumably instead of wiping it, drying it and handing it gently to a Forest player).

3. The complete nobhead who issued Gazza with a caution for returning the yellow card that he had dropped and presumably applying a touch of humour to the Scottish game. (He should be bellyshot cos it causes intense pain and takes longer to die).

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Inspired by the pathetic Halsey I'd like to have personally pulled the trigger on

2.  Whoever sent Wilcox off at Nottingham for dropping the ball onto the ground  (presumably instead of wiping it, drying it and handing it gently to a Forest player).

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It was a shocking decision. Seem to think it was a clown who went by the name of Paul Danson.

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3.  The complete nobhead who issued Gazza with a caution for returning the yellow card that he had dropped and presumably applying a touch of humour to the Scottish game. 

Probably a Celtic fan who doesn't like the English, Theno. Either that or he's the most arrogant sod in Scotland.

I wonder what would have happened if Gazza had already been on a yellow card. Would this plonker of a ref have sent Gascoigne off for holding up a card ?

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Five others I'd like to add to your list Gord....

1) Ali Ben Naseur, the Tunisian ref who missed the so-called "hand of God" goal in 1986. This bungling Tunisian amateur should never have been put in charge of such an important match.

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In his autobiography a few years ago, Maradona said: "Now I feel I am able to say what I couldn't then. At the time I called it 'the hand of God'. B*llocks was it the hand of God, it was the hand of Diego! And it felt like pickpocketing the English."

2) Steve Bennett, the south London ref for the Rovers/Bolton match at Ewood last season - who despite not being far away, failed to notice that 'Spit the Dog' Diouf had clearly dived in the box for a penalty.

3) Urs Meier - the bungling Swiss ref with the dodgy goatee beard who disallowed Sol Campbell's goal against Portugal in Euro 2004.

4) I don't usually stick up for the French, but.... the myopic ref who refused to punish a shocking disgraceful foul in the 1982 World Cup semi-final between France and Germany. France's Patrick Battiston was played clean through, with only the Kraut keeper Harald Schumacher to beat.

Schumacher deliberately launched himself at Battiston, smashing into the Frenchman's face, leaving him unconscious with a broken jaw. While Battiston was stretchered off, to spend months in recovery, the stupid ref awarded a goal-kick!

5) The referee in the early 1980's who failed to notice a shot by Clive Allen which went into the back of the goal after striking the stanchion. The goal wasn't given.

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Probably a Celtic fan who doesn't like the English, Theno. Either that or he's the most arrogant sod in Scotland.

I wonder what would have happened if Gazza had already been on a yellow card. Would this plonker of a ref have sent Gascoigne off for holding up a card ?

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Five others I'd like to add to your list Gord....

1) Ali Ben Naseur, the Tunisian ref who missed the so-called "hand of God" goal in 1986. This bungling Tunisian amateur should never have been put in charge of such an important match.

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In his autobiography a few years ago, Maradona said: "Now I feel I am able to say what I couldn't then. At the time I called it 'the hand of God'. B*llocks was it the hand of God, it was the hand of Diego! And it felt like pickpocketing the English."

2) Steve Bennett, the south London ref for the Rovers/Bolton match at Ewood last season - who despite not being far away, failed to notice that 'Spit the Dog' Diouf had clearly dived in the box for a penalty.

3) Urs Meier - the bungling Swiss ref with the dodgy goatee beard who disallowed Sol Campbell's goal against Portugal in Euro 2004.

4) I don't usually stick up for the French, but.... the myopic ref who refused to punish a shocking disgraceful foul in the 1982 World Cup semi-final between France and Germany. France's Patrick Battiston was played clean through, with only the Kraut keeper Harald Schumacher to beat.

Schumacher deliberately launched himself at Battiston, smashing into the Frenchman's face, leaving him unconscious with a broken jaw. While Battiston was stretchered off, to spend months in recovery, the stupid ref awarded a goal-kick!

5) The referee in the early 1980's who failed to notice a shot by Clive Allen which went into the back of the goal after striking the stanchion. The goal wasn't given.

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Not only did he miss Maradonna cheating he also missed at least one penalty shout for England as Lineker was pushed into the nets. I have still not forgiven England for wearing the colour of shorts they did that day.

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I must be in a minority here, but every time I see the Hand Of God goal, it's never apparent that he punches the ball into the net. Obviously he does, and slow-motion replays etc prove it, but with the naked eye at realtime speed I still struggle to spot it blatantly. I think the players reactions have to help a referee sometimes. Everybody around the ball immediately appealed for handball. Now that's not usual for a striker winning a header against a goalkeeper. The referee has to call what he sees, but watching the instinctive reaction of all those invovled must give him clues.

Chalk up Ashby at Ewood Park, 1994 vs Manchester United. Berg wins the ball from Sharp, and amazingly is given a penalty against him and sent off. Crazy.

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A little known fact I think, but Urs Meier refereed at Ewood Park in 1995.

He officiated for the Rovers-Legia Warsaw game in the Champions League - the game when Shearer missed a last minute one-on-one that would have taken us to the quarter-finals.

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what about the long range Spuds goal at the Budweiser Dome last year? a shocker!  ohmy.gif

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I think that was Clattenburg who is perhaps one of the best refs in the league at the moment

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Rennie....the guy has his own agent for gods sake.

Never forgave Ashby for 94 against Utd. However, the chap dropped dead last year unexpectedly. Seems silly to hold a grudge when you put things in to perspective but that along with Durkin at OT cost us points against our then biggest title challengers.

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I think that was Clattenburg who is perhaps one of the best refs in the league at the moment

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I'd agree with that. I've only ever seen him have a few bad games. It'll come though - something will go badly against us and we'll hate him forever. In regards to the Mendes "goal", I don't think that was a refereeing error. He couldn't see it any better than the linesman and certainly couldn't give it without the signal from his assistaint.

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5) The referee in the early 1980's who failed to notice a shot by Clive Allen which went into the back of the goal after striking the stanchion. The goal wasn't given.

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This was bettered only by a Scottish ref called Les Mottram a few years ago when he was reffing Partick v Dundee United. A shot went into the goal, hit the stansion and bounced out. As the fans celebrated a defender caught the ball and threw it back to the keeper who booted it back to the centre. What did our Les do? He played on of course. Surely the best ever to miss a gaol and a clear penalty in 1 go.

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i can't actually tell wether or not that zurab touched the ball...even at full speed and on repalys too. what makes it hard to understand for me was that the ball and player was running away from goal and all zurab had to do was shepherd the guy towards the byeline. however, in saying that if it was a free kick then it certainly was a yellow card at the very most...the ref without a doubt in my mind spoiled the game from that moment on. he was not the last defender and we had cover in the penalty area....so i think the ref has dropped a bollock on this one by spoiling the game.

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much as i hate w**ky wanderers, rob styles decision is astonishing! once again, 1 rule for the big clubs and different 1 for the smaller.

how many dogs are kicked on a saturday night because of decisions made by these boneheads!

(dogs... boneheads, suprised myself there).

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There are some people (rather naive perhaps) who say that match-fixing by refs is impossible and that it never goes on in top class football.

Sadly it does sometimes go on - and the German ref Robert Hoyzer has just been jailed for two years and five months after admitting match-fixing.

Together with fellow ref Dominik Marks, they were found guilty of having fixed matches in return for large cash sums. The Croatian ringleaders made a couple of million Euros in the betting fraud.

As my Grandmother used to say: "Where there's muck there's brass." (Or perhaps it should be the other way round - Where there's brass, there's muck.)

One of the matches Mr Hoyzer fixed involved Hamburg against lower-league Paderborn in the German Cup. Hoyzer sent off one Hamburg player and awarded Paderborn two disputed penalties. Hamburg were leading 2-0 but went on to lose 4-2. After the match, the Hamburg manager Klaus Topmoeller was sacked.

Brian Clough died last year knowing that although he won two European Cups with Nottingham Forest, (a superb achievement with a provincial club) , he could have won an extra European Cup with Derby in 1973 and indeed could have won the UEFA Cup in 1984 with Forest if he hadn't been on the end of some disgraceful match-fixing by Spanish and German refs.

Forest won the first leg of the 1984 UEFA Cup semi-final against Anderlecht 2-0 at the City Ground, with England international Steve Hodge scoring both goals. The second leg in Anderlecht was a shameful footballing episode. The Spanish ref was bribed by Andelecht.

Anderlecht won the game 3-0 on the night, but to get there the Spanish ref gave possibly the most ludicrous disgraceful penalty decision ever seen in football, when he awarded a penalty against Forest's Kenny Swain.

Swain was nowhere near the diving Belgian attacker. He didn't come close to him at all, but the referee awarded a scandalous penalty to Anderlecht. Other decisions during the match favoured the Belgians too, and Cloughy was livid afterwards. (Normally Clough didn't like criticising refs.)

The bribery was only proven ten years later - after the Spanish referee died in a car accident. During their investigations, the police discovered that the ref had been paid for match fixing - including an £18,000 payment by Anderlecht in 1984. The "punishment" that UEFA gave to Anderlecht was exceptionally lenient - only banning them from European competition for a year.

Clough was also disgusted by the circumstances of Derby's defeat by Juventus in the 2nd leg of their European Cup semi final in 1973. Derby lost 3-1 in the 2nd leg in Turin and Cloughy was bitter afterwards that he had been robbed of a possible European Cup win with Derby.

Reading Clough's autobiography, it's clear that even many years later, he was deeply hurt (and justifiably so) by what happened.

Link to today's news of the German ref being jailed is below:

German ref jailed for fixing

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A thread resurrection that Smithy would be proud of............

Apparently PNE might be in lumber about this but quite amusing I thought ; from the Mail about our mate Uriah

Preston dropped two precious points on the day they needed victory to go above Cardiff to the top of the Championship and now they face FA action over a few ill-chosen words dropped by an announcer about referee Uriah Rennie.

The Sheffield official, one of the most experienced in the country, upset the home side and their followers with a number of decisions in the first half at Deepdale - most notably ignoring two penalty claims when Sean St. Ledger went down in the visiting area and producing a yellow card for Palace striker James Scowcroft when most of the crowd were screaming for red.

One voice was raised too high in one sentence at the end of a series of half-time announcements over the public address system. I could hardly believe my ears when I heard: "Enjoy the second-half of the Uriah Rennie show."

The authorities clearly take a dim view of such statements. An FA spokesman said: "We will be writing to the club asking for an explanation."

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Not a ref this time but what on earth was the linesman (who looked like a cross between Bela Lugosi and Edward G Robinson btw) thinking of to award a free kick for handball in the last seconds of the Charlton v Fulham game from which Fulham scored the equalizer. The lineo should not see the inside of another Prem stadium without paying for a long time. I'd have been well ticked off it it had happened against us.

Quite funny to see him hiding behind Poll all the way off the pitch!

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