thenodrog Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 As I've said- I agree about his time in the Championship- he was a good Championship striker. You are being a touch harsh Jan. Matty was an excellent Championship striker .... he was a very good Premiership striker too with the right strike partner, BUT he was NOT a great Premiership striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Contention means actually staying in that league not actually challenging for anything, keep digging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 You are being a touch harsh Jan. Matty was an excellent Championship striker .... he was a very good Premiership striker too with the right strike partner, BUT he was NOT a great Premiership striker. I'll give you that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopper69 Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I'll give you that! To be fair I dont really think he had much time to establish himself in the Premiership did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenodrog Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Come on...... Eyal Berkovic was no Tugay no was he? In ability on the ball he bloody well was albeit his best work was done at the front of midfield not at the back. His tackling however made Tugay look like John Terry. btw I think it was John Hartson said Berkovitz was the best final ball provider that he had ever played with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Southampton Rover Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 He's had more time than a lot of footballers who have been shipped off without a longer chance. These days footballers need to make an impact asap otherwise their chance of becoming a success decrease enormously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopper69 Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 In ability on the ball he bloody well was albeit his best work was done at the front of midfield not at the back. His tackling however made Tugay look like John Terry. btw I think it was John Hartson said Berkovitz was the best final ball provider that he had ever played with. was that bedfore or after he booted him in the face lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadsword Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Eyal Berkovic was bloody mint. Cracking passer. I'll always remember him setting up Benty at Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Contention means actually staying in that league not actually challenging for anything, keep digging. That has to be one of the most perplexingly daft comments I've seen on here. Just how WOULD we have been out of the league by the end of the first half of the season?? Ejected for shooting someone??? We could have been way behind, which we weren't, but we couldn't have been out of the league by the time we were saved by Mr Cole's acquisition. And for you to say that was mainly down to Matty ignores the contribution (and, more importantly, GOALS) of the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenodrog Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 was that bedfore or after he booted him in the face lol After. He really spoke well of Berko.... but for some unknown reason the respect didn't appear to be mutual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 To be fair I dont really think he had much time to establish himself in the Premiership did he? And with that you admit that he wasn't a great striker before the acccident, which is correct. My point was that he might have gone on to become one (I don't think so but anything's possible) but he wasn't there then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadsword Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 We'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopper69 Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 And with that you admit that he wasn't a great striker before the acccident, which is correct. My point was that he might have gone on to become one (I don't think so but anything's possible) but he wasn't there then. What? No I think that he was a fantastic striker before his accident. Its just unfortunate that he did not have longer to make an impact in the Premier League before his accident. I think that all the good players from Division One need to adapt to life in the Premier league and Matt Jansen showed signs that he could be more than capable of achieving great things at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4E Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Come on...... Eyal Berkovic was no Tugay no was he? Of course not. Still a fantastic player though, we wouldn't have done badly to have made that move permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Season 2000-2001, league games Berkovic- played- 4 games, sub 7 games, 2 goals. Jansen-played- 31 games, sub 9 games, 23 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopper69 Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Of course not. Still a fantastic player though, we wouldn't have done badly to have made that move permanent. If memory serves me right I believe Man City bought him when our loan deal expired. Carnt remember him much from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenodrog Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Of course not. Still a fantastic player though, we wouldn't have done badly to have made that move permanent. Souness wanted to but couldn't afford him..... so he brought Tugay in from Rangers Res. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4E Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Aye, remember it well Gord. As I recall Septic were looking for circa £5m for him - shows how good a deal getting Rangers POTY for £1.3m was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 As I remember it we could have afforded either Tugay or Berkovic but not both of them, Souness chose Tugay. I wasn't so sure at the time, I rated Berkovic really highly but I think Soouey got this one right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Berkovich was after unspeakably high wages (for those days); we kept him dangling all summer until we got Tugay and then City finally gave in and gave him his wadge. Jansen will always have a very special place in Rovers' hearts. - for being on the end of all those special moves in the second division and getting us promotion by sticking most of them in the net. - for his ability to do the very special. In the Prem he had long dry spells but he was always a player who could quicken the pace with a "how did he do that" moment. - at the end of the 2003/4 season he clicked as a Premiership goal scorer and on the last three months' form forced himself from nowhere to almost getting on the plane with Sven to Japorea. - for me, his warm up routines stand alongside Ripley and Tugay's for entertainment value and eye popping ball tricks I suppose how we look at Matty's career depends on whether you are one of those people who remember the old Ewood foremost for the bogs, the damp, the cold, the splintered wooden seats in the Nuttall Street or you think of the old Ewood and immediately see the nets bulging and remember jumping and down. Most of the games were so bad that you had plenty of time to cogitate the surroundings but for me football is about the highs and that's what I remember. And quite a lot of highs have been courtesy of Matt Jansen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakey Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 . - at the end of the 2003/4 season he clicked as a Premiership goal scorer and on the last three months' form forced himself from nowhere to almost getting on the plane with Sven to Japorea. - You need to get your facts right Mr Malta! I think you will find that the World Cup was in 2002 and not 2004. If he was getting on the plane with Sven to Japorea in 2004 he must have been going there on his summer holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_the_beast Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Just seen Matt Jansen on sky sports talking about a possible return to football on the coaching side of things. He has yet to take alot of his coaching badges and said he's no plans to return soon and is focusing on family life at the moment but maybe in a few years time. If he could prove himself to be of any worth as a coach would be good to have a true rovers legend back at the club one day. One Matty Jansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenodrog Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Just seen Matt Jansen on sky sports talking about a possible return to football on the coaching side of things. He has yet to take alot of his coaching badges and said he's no plans to return soon and is focusing on family life at the moment but maybe in a few years time.If he could prove himself to be of any worth as a coach would be good to have a true rovers legend back at the club one day. One Matty Jansen Seems quite relaxed about all that............. So whats he living on at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc Love Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Terrible tradegy!! Its all that england managers fault for not selecting him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshbrfc Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Good luck to him though, whatever he does with his future, and hope he makes it in the coaching side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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