mellison24 Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I originally suggested Holloway as a joke. A random name to be thrown in. But the idea begins to appeal when people start suggesting Shearer and Curbishley!! While he has no Premiership experience, Holloway certainly has the drive to do well on a MINISCULE budget wherever he has worked. He installs team ethic, fighting spirit and plays decent, passing football! I am NOT advocating hiring him, I'm just stating that there ARE options in the lower leagues that would work better than simply getting in a 'big name'.
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rebelmswar Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I am NOT advocating hiring him, I'm just stating that there ARE options in the lower leagues that would work better than simply getting in a 'big name'. I am from the school of once bitten twice shy. After Ince I would be very very cautious of hiring anyone who has never been in the Premier League. This league is like no other in the world, its pace and sheer volume of cash make it a different animal. Putting a lower league manager STRAIGHT into it is like asking a Geologist to explain quantum physics. The manager that we choose must at the very least have been an assistant manager in the league. Anything else --foreign or domestic-- is a huge risk.
Rovers_4_life Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Shearer is NOT a realistic replacement, he was useless at Newcastle, with any half decent manager in charge for those last 8 games they would have stayed up; he failed, big style. For me tonight is a huge game (as stupid as that sounds since it's a semi final), if the players put in a performance (not considering the result) to show they are behind Sam and wan't to play for him then he retains my support as the man for the job, until the end of the season at least. If they produce the garbage they have over the last few weeks then that's it for me, they aren't behind the manager and when that happens there's only one outcome. I just want to see Rovers players playing like they want to wear the shirt, not seen that since November.
BuckyRover Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I'm not sure about that rebel. I think the minimum should be that the assistant has worked in the league, either as a manager or assistant. Just a small point, on FM10 in my current game Sam has been replaced by Berg who has done very well. An omen? :-)
thenodrog Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 If Big Sam gets beat in the next 2 games then he's got to go!!!!! if this form continue than we would be playing championship. My 3 choices for manager would be Alan Shearer, Alan Curbishley and Steve McClaren. i think Alan Shearer would be idea for us. I know that he's got no experience but he would put the heart and passion BACK into the club. would be able to attract big names to the club like Hughes did. i think he would have good backroom staff to help him. probably Gary Speed has assistant manager and experience first team coach to help him!!! ALAN SHEARER BLUE AND WHITE ARMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It gets funnier and funnier! Heart and passion!!!! wtf He couldn't even inject any into the club he loves last season!!
rebelmswar Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I'm not sure about that rebel. I think the minimum should be that the assistant has worked in the league, either as a manager or assistant. Just a small point, on FM10 in my current game Sam has been replaced by Berg who has done very well. An omen? :-) Of course that was all my opinion. I just have the feeling that we (as a club) are lost in the woods. We are desperately seeking some way out and it is getting darker all of the time. I thought that Sam was a safe haven, a light through the dark. That brief flame seems to have been extinguished and I fear that we are approaching midnight. We desperately need a stable period to gather ourselves together. I fear that if we fire Sam and hire some unknown it will be like running wildly through those woods in the dark. Doing so: we will, eventually, hit something and knock ourselves out. We need something we know, but more than that, we need someone who knows us and how to find what we have lost.
The Harwood Yankee Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Is replacing the manager really a possibility from a financial point of view? I know there's arguments about how much we'd stand to lose if we get relegated but bringing in an unknown entity without a full transfer market to work through would be a colossal gamble, and I'm sure we'd have to pay BFS big money to get rid of him, not to mention possible compensation to bring someone else in. With all the cries of poverty reverberating round Ewood I fear that we're stuck with Sam whether we like it or not. If anyone can convince me otherwise I'd be delighted, as I'm as seriously peed off with everything about Allardyce and his arrogant/ignorant approach to managing our club.
broadsword Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I thought that Sam was a safe haven, a light through the dark. That brief flame seems to have been extinguished and I fear that we are approaching midnight. ... or even 0-dark 30, Private Cowboy.
rebelmswar Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 ... or even 0-dark 30, Private Cowboy. Have you finished with that garden hose?
broadsword Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I'm asking the ****ing questions around here, Private! Do you understand? What's your excuse?
rebelmswar Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I'm asking the ****ing questions around here, Private! Do you understand? What's your excuse? Roger that sir, but... We do all know where the best of you ended up.
philipl Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 So we play 4-5-1. Predictably carry no attacking threat whatsoever- at home. Equally predictably they run straight through us and score. We have 5 in midfield but in reality they are outnumbering us in midfield and finding space all too easily. When they attack you see the 4-5-1 pattern with players sticking in their positions like they have been glued there. When we have posession there is no inteligent movement, not to give the man in posession passing options, not to go into the channels- the contrast with Villa is horrible. It is clear our players have been told to loft it forwards at the first opportunity but I am struggling to think of one hoof that has resulted in Rovers' controlled posession or even has reached a Rovers player going forwards facing the Villa goal. Our players might not be the best but this is a managerial crisis, not a footballer crisis.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 It's Sams master plan. He's got a dicky ticker,so now he want's out. A large pay-off would do nicely. He'll wait whilst we sack him. Cue pay-out. Simples.
benhben Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Would you rather have Allardyce saked tomorrow, with his pay off meaning no new signings for rest of season but a new manager taking over, or keep allardyce and possibly bring in a couple of players. I know what I would have, and Fatty isnt part of it.
G Somerset Rover Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I'm fed up of the football but I'd have to say the opposite. Sam should be seeing the light and play to more suitable tactics. We would have picked up many more points by now and not be in this precarious situation. I still think he'll see us safe, even with our current crop of players. But I don't think change for the sake of change will do us as a club any good right now. Let him make his signings this window and see how it goes. Please - no Simon Graysons, Tony Parkes or other low leaguers! Sorry El Tombro but that's a non first half too many for me. The players clearly don't want to listen to him and it's only when we go against hoofing it that we look half a team. We cannot afford to keep turning up 45 minutes into a game and the buck must stop with the manager. 12 games without a win, 9 without a win in the league, barely any scored. Times up.
Backroom DE. Posted January 14, 2010 Backroom Posted January 14, 2010 We're a one half team. 4-5-1 at home in the semis of the Carling Cup, with the same nasty hoofball tactics that got us murdered by City? Not f-cking good enough. Allardyce seems incapable of learning from his mistakes, and I'm tired of having to wait for the players to ignore his advice and start playing it on the ground before we even look half a threat. If Sam cannot learn to change his game then we will be in serious trouble come the end of the season. It's not even that teams have figured us out - we're just sh!t at playing our own formation. The players don't like it - and it shows. As the fans sung in the first half - "BIG SAM SORT IT OUT".
Bobby G Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 We played our best football passing it around down the wings. Our worst without doubt were the hoofs when Nico couldnt connect to them, and Villa immediately attacked back. Why hoof it if the second man is 10 meters away from the striker?
PAFELL Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 So we play 4-5-1. Predictably carry no attacking threat whatsoever- at home. Equally predictably they run straight through us and score. We have 5 in midfield but in reality they are outnumbering us in midfield and finding space all too easily. When they attack you see the 4-5-1 pattern with players sticking in their positions like they have been glued there. When we have posession there is no inteligent movement, not to give the man in posession passing options, not to go into the channels- the contrast with Villa is horrible. It is clear our players have been told to loft it forwards at the first opportunity but I am struggling to think of one hoof that has resulted in Rovers' controlled posession or even has reached a Rovers player going forwards facing the Villa goal. Our players might not be the best but this is a managerial crisis, not a footballer crisis. It was hoof ball that cost us the goal. Big kick into the box- all Rovers players waiting for it - didn't get the ball- villa break with it, goal.
G Somerset Rover Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Big Sam doesn't look all there in his post-match interview on sky. Speaking the usual "just can't finish" which is true - but he ignores all of the other points. Reckons at half time he just told them "to play with quality and to keep the momentum going". Also talked as if their goal came against the run of play..WTF?!! I'm not buying it. He's got quite a bad cut on his lip..result of Monday night's lock in at Eastlands maybe??
Amo Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I wish people would quit hatin' on the 4-4-1-1. Both of Kalinic's gilt-edged chances came during that formation. I just don't know why Sam thinks Salgado is a winger, and why Hoilett never played to combat Villa's pace?
Claytons Left Boot Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 It was hoof ball that cost us the goal. Big kick into the box- all Rovers players waiting for it - didn't get the ball- villa break with it, goal. As I said in another post, "HOOF IT AND LOSE IT." Sam, are you listening, I said, "HOOF IT AND F-CKING LOSE IT." Are you there yet? One last time, "HOOF IT AND F-CKING LOSE IT." Eight year olds play that style of football before they have grasped the idea of playing it on the deck!!
broadsword Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I wonder what his doctors thought of him going bat ###### on the touchline? Not really what heart-op patients should be doing, no?
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