[Archived] Lazy Blackburn

[Plastic Head]

I'm definately off as soon as the housing market picks up (if it ever does)

20% of the Borough on benefits for at least 13 years

Quote "Blackburn MP Jack Straw said ‘there is no doubt there is a problem here’"

Dead right Jack, you and your liberal communist mates caused it.

Quote "8,841 people have never worked due to health problems"

Why do I get up in the morning to pay for these people's beer and Sky, (if any of them drink that is).

I must be mad.

[dixonbrfc]

i think blackburn with darwen took the title of the most overweight people in the country! not much going for us atm lol

[dazmaz]

wow thats quite shocking, after a quick calculation such people have actually recived at least £68262.35 (based purely on the £50.95 benefit and £100 a week rent) if you add everything else on to that it could easily be 100k plus. now 20% on benifits is understandable for the current issues with the credit crunch BUT that hasnt been going on for 13 years.

NOTE; im not slating anyone on benifits here im on JSA myself (contribution based and live with parents) but being on benifits for 13 years is just pure lazy (unless a medical condition is the reason)

[Plastic Head]

wow thats quite shocking, after a quick calculation such people have actually recived at least £68262.35 (based purely on the £50.95 benefit and £100 a week rent) if you add everything else on to that it could easily be 100k plus. now 20% on benifits is understandable for the current issues with the credit crunch BUT that hasnt been going on for 13 years.

NOTE; im not slating anyone on benifits here im on JSA myself (contribution based and live with parents) but being on benifits for 13 years is just pure lazy (unless a medical condition is the reason)

I think you added that up wrong.

25000 people on £100 benefit a week (a conservative estimation of the average) is £2,500,000 a week and £130M per annum.

Now if that money were re-directed to a local institution, say a football club......Hang on, I've just had an idea.

Get David Cameron and Ronaldo on the phone.......

[AndyNeil]

the full story is here : click .... un(######)believable

[Hughesy]

Not quite sure why they have picked out blackburn for this....not a massive suprise to me. The sort of figures I work with every day.

You can find info here about other authorities - ONS Figures

If you find the town & then look under deprivation, there are figures around claimants, worklessness, benefits, etc...

[SAS]

Its a massive proportion of the town, I guess A LOT of it is people working for cash in hand AND claiming.

[whittle blue]

Why do I get up in the morning to pay for these people's beer and Sky, (if any of them drink that is).

I must be mad.

Dignity & self respect , Plastic Head.

Without that, you're nowt.

[thenodrog]

the full story is here : click .... un(######)believable

Shocking but hardly unbelievable jw upper. I received criticism in the past for stating that the towns chock full of dollopers. Now the stats prove it. Also I'd wager that they are breeding faster than the national average.

btw went into Oakenhurst road health centre on Wed in the middle of the afternoon, God only knows what clinic it was but the waiting room was chock full of scuffy fat loud female scroats with lank greasy hair and tattoos. At the risk of causing offence I might just wear a surgical mask next time.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Shocking but hardly unbelievable jw upper. I received criticism in the past for stating that the towns chock full of dollopers. Now the stats prove it. Also I'd wager that they are breeding faster than the national average.

btw went into Oakenhurst road health centre on Wed in the middle of the afternoon, God only knows what clinic it was but the waiting room was chock full of scuffy fat loud female scroats with lank greasy hair and tattoos. At the risk of causing offence I might just wear a surgical mask next time.

I often find that, to me, you views are somewhere to the right of Atilla The Hun and therefore a bit irksome. I dont know if it's impending age but I'm finding myself agreeing with some of your views recently.

Sadly, your experience at Oakenhurst Road is magnified many times over in North and East Manchester where I currently work. In my experience this is also the case UK wide.

I'm of solid working class stock, born in Blackburn in the late 60's. My views have been a reflection of that. Tragically the real working class has all but dissapeared, destroyed by Thatcher and the New Labour liberal "elite". What is left is nothing but workshy, feckless, nihilistc, criminal vermin.

As a result of this I'm offski. I just dont see it ever getting any better. We have a 12 year old to consider and we are taking her to Australia where there is is still a work ethic and the concept of respect.

To those of you who are trying to make the best of the mess this country has become - good luck.

[thenodrog]

I often find that, to me, you views are somewhere to the right of Atilla The Hun and therefore a bit irksome. I dont know if it's impending age but I'm finding myself agreeing with some of your views recently.

Sadly, your experience at Oakenhurst Road is magnified many times over in North and East Manchester where I currently work. In my experience this is also the case UK wide.

I'm of solid working class stock, born in Blackburn in the late 60's. My views have been a reflection of that. Tragically the real working class has all but dissapeared, destroyed by Thatcher and the New Labour liberal "elite". What is left is nothing but workshy, feckless, nihilistc, criminal vermin.

As a result of this I'm offski. I just dont see it ever getting any better. We have a 12 year old to consider and we are taking her to Australia where there is is still a work ethic and the concept of respect.

To those of you who are trying to make the best of the mess this country has become - good luck.

Sooner or later everybody does dgs. I must confess that I was a lot more liberal in my youth. A combination of work / tax / marriage / fatherhood combined to make me see that human nature makes liberal policies unworkable.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Sooner or later everybody does dgs. I must confess that I was a lot more liberal in my youth. A combination of work / tax / marriage / fatherhood combined to make me see that human nature makes liberal policies unworkable.

Wholesale, almost overnight destuction of traditional industries without a care for the lives it affects or a thought for what should replace them dosn't help either.

Especially when it was motivated by a hatred of working people and a thirst for vengeance.

[Hughesy]

Part of the reason why Ewood isnt full every week - they all claim benefits and would rather spend it on their cans and drugs....Sad but true

[rebelmswar]

Sooner or later everybody does dgs. I must confess that I was a lot more liberal in my youth. A combination of work / tax / marriage / fatherhood combined to make me see that human nature makes liberal policies unworkable.

French Premier Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."

[broadsword]

Did you watch Benefit Busters last night? Not every claimant is a work-shy good-for-nothing arse.

They were trying to get work after being sent toa job club run by a government contractor. some of the stuff that went on was ridiculous, getting people to build bridges out of paper and cellotape to keep them occupied for the amount of time that they were there for.

I felt gutted for one huy who'd been out of work for ten years, he managed to secure a position outdoors getting 7.20/ hour under the impression it was good for 6 months. A few weeks later he'd got binned.

Some positions were zero hour contracts meaning that the employers weren't obligated to offer work in any given week.

The job market is so unstable that you can understand how some people feel more secure on the dole. In fact a lot of the time they actually earn more money that way.

The system is stuffed. It's churning out people who aren't given much of a second chance. It's little wonder they become de-motivated.

[JAL]

Funny how all of a sudden the focus is on benefits and numbers claiming it when more people are going to need it.

Whose prompted this ?

Is it the opposition for government or a prompt more from government advisors knowing full well that they(the government) cant sustain it as the unemployed numbers expect to grow week by week so this information is being pumped out now in order to win the publics minds on what they the government are about to embark on, as in changes to the welfare system which will inevitably leave individuals in a far worse state than they currently find themselves in.

For me the first priority must be to target immigrants claiming benefits, highly unfair I know but its got to be done. All those Asian streets around Bastwell/Whalley Range area that Jack Straw counts on claiming

[BuckyRover]

An immigrant has to have paid national insurance for three years before any benefits can be claimed.

[thenodrog]

French Premier Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."

Wise words ............ In fact I might make that a part of my sig!

[tashor]

If a leading British M.P. drank Heineken this would be their Website.........

[Wiggy]

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Especially when it was motivated by a hatred of working people and a thirst for vengeance.

OMG you truly can't believe that can you Dgs? The so called underclass in this country has been created by bleeding heart politics. Generations in the UK have been left with no aspiration and in a hopeless state. Nu Lab over the last decade has exacerbated the problem, making it easier to sit at home watching Jeremy Kyle' than having personal fulfillment. One of Labours' proper politicians ,Frank Field, recognised that tough love would help people fulfil their lives. Tony Blair told him in 1997 to think the unthinkable, get people working. He came with radical ( and to him Socialist thinking). Benefits would be rationed and finite. Whilst the most vulnerable shoud be cared for there should be no free lunch.

However, he had offended the Islington champagne Socialists and was ostracised and sacked. The decision to ignore Frank Field's white paper did more damage to our society than any other in the previous 20 years.

[roverandout]

too many immigrants being brought over for cheap labour, minimum wage, where i work the immigrants probably outnumber the local born staff by about 3 to 1, still doesnt condone some lazy people who would rather be spending my hard earned tax money in the pub every day than working while having a child and spending their child benefits on more booze. These people sicken me.

[grizfoot]

Blackburn and Darwen have both been on a steady decline for years now some would say. Whilst these latest benefits figures do make shocking reading lets not forgot that all the industry the towns were built on have all but gone now. To see so many people unemployed it seems to indicate that there's not enough jobs available in the area with more and more business moving away to bigger cities. It is difficult to seperate the people who really are entitled to benefits and need them from thoose who are entitled to benefits but could really be working if they wanted to. These are the sort of problems the government needs to be looking at, but there's no overnight solution if you like.

Let's not forget there's plenty of people who work in Darwen and Blackburn and i'm sure a lot of them do good jobs. Which makes it all the more frustrating when you see people who've never worked a day in their life seemingly not much worse off than a person who works hard and has the majority of their earnings go on taxes and paying bills. It's questionable whether some of these unemployed people would ever want to work even if a suitable opportunity came along for them. The area suffers from a unemployment cycle if you like which runs from generation to generation, if the parents in a household both don't work it's probably more than likely their offspring are going to follow suit and then they'll have children and they won't work and hence it continues in a big never-ending cycle. This is the real problem that the government needs to solve, to try and stop this culture of people not going to work.

In addition any highly academically succesfully people who orginally grew up in the area are more than likely going to move away to find an area with more available jobs for them. In a result the area is left with all the less-skilled people of which a majority will probably quite happily accept a life living of benefits.

To end on a bright note not all the people of Blackburn and Darwen are lazy, unemployed human life. There's some genuine, good-hearted, friendly northern folk if you look hard enough.

[cletus]

The figures are indeed shocking, but not surprising.

I`m in & out of town all day with my job. I drive past all the 'early morning pubs'......last orders, postal order, baroque (on northgate)......& EVERY morning you see the same old faces stood outside or sat in the window. I see them there ALL day EVERY day. How on earth these dregs of society can afford to sup beer & smoke fags all the time is beyond me. I work a 50-60 hour week & i couldn`t afford to do that......even if i wanted to.

I wonder how many of these scrotes are on benefits?

Give them food tokens......not money!!!

[ABBEY]

extra benefits for alkys lol whats that all about.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

The figures are indeed shocking, but not surprising.

I`m in & out of town all day with my job. I drive past all the 'early morning pubs'......last orders, postal order, baroque (on northgate)......& EVERY morning you see the same old faces stood outside or sat in the window. I see them there ALL day EVERY day. How on earth these dregs of society can afford to sup beer & smoke fags all the time is beyond me. I work a 50-60 hour week & i couldn`t afford to do that......even if i wanted to.

I wonder how many of these scrotes are on benefits?

Give them food tokens......not money!!!

That's what bugs me most as well. Wish I could afford to stay in the pub all day, every day. =/