Gav Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 If they had really sat down and looked at his IVA proposal Well thats his first mistake taking out an IVA! Why pay a bleedin solicitor to talk to his creditors, they charge thousands for the privilege, when he can ring them himself and cut out the leach? Sad state of affairs indeed. Quote
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Stuart Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Well thats his first mistake taking out an IVA! Why pay a bleedin solicitor to talk to his creditors, they charge thousands for the privilege, when he can ring them himself and cut out the leach? Sad state of affairs indeed. I'm guessing because solicitors know how best to work the system how the law works so that people can avoid having to pay their bills reduce their liabilities. By the sounds of things the process works! Quote
Gav Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I'm guessing because solicitors know how best to work the system how the law works so that people can avoid having to pay their bills reduce their liabilities. By the sounds of things the process works! I have nothing to do with debt or debt collectors, solicitors or IVA's, but simply you ignore your creditors and they come after you, you ring them and offer to pay they don’t, why pay thousands to a solicitor to make that call? Lack of knowledge or madness? Quote
Jock Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I'll not worry about Hendry's finances. He should be a real man and pay back that family what he can afford every year until the debt is paid. Quote
Gav Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I'll not worry about Hendry's finances. He should be a real man and pay back that family what he can afford every year until the debt is paid. Quote
Dunnfc Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Exactley truly disgusting. Hang his head in shame. Quote
Stuart Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I have nothing to do with debt or debt collectors, solicitors or IVA's, but simply you ignore your creditors and they come after you, you ring them and offer to pay they don’t, why pay thousands to a solicitor to make that call? Lack of knowledge or madness? I'm not expert either but, making the obvious assumption that there would naturally be communications prior to any bankrupcy decision, here's a hypothetical scenario: Borrower: Hi I can't pay back the £10,000 I loaned from you, would you take a cheque for £5.34 and half a tube of toothpaste? Lender: No, I'll have the £10,000 - thanks all the same. Borrower: Well, here's the thing. It's the £5.34 and the toothpaste - or nothing. Lender: I'll see you in court. At this point the borrower will either get, or direct an existing solicitor involved. I fully agree with Jock though, and given your thumbs up, assume you are playing devil's advocate. Quote
Jock Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Fancy talking to an ex-player who said 'Kean should be sacked but he cant say that to the media because he's skint' Then reading that he's told the press that Kean is doing a great job. Quote
Gav Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I'm not expert either but, making the obvious assumption that there would naturally be communications prior to any bankrupcy decision, here's a hypothetical scenario: Borrower: Hi I can't pay back the £10,000 I loaned from you, would you take a cheque for £5.34 and half a tube of toothpaste? Lender: No, I'll have the £10,000 - thanks all the same. Borrower: Well, here's the thing. It's the £5.34 and the toothpaste - or nothing. Lender: I'll see you in court. At this point the borrower will either get, or direct an existing solicitor involved. I fully agree with Jock though, and given your thumbs up, assume you are playing devil's advocate. Judge - How much can you afford to pay Borrower - Please see my income and expenditure form Judge - The borrower can afford to pay a cheque for £5.34 and half a tube of toothpaste Lender - Ok then the law states I cannot claim more than the borrow can realistically afford to pay No need for a solicitor at £50 an hour and taking 5% of the total debt as commission for dealing with the lender! You do the maths Quote
Stuart Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Lender - Ok then the law states I cannot claim more than the borrow can realistically afford to pay Is that factual? And given that it's suggested on the website that he's is still drawing a tidy pension, does that seem obvious to a layman that he could claim poverty as a defence. I'd suggest a solicitor would know the ins and outs of this - which is why they can charge what they do. Also, it's probably also likely that the law states you can't borrow more than you can realistically afford to pay back. Hence why he had to his friend to help. Which is where I came in originally: Don't lend money to your mates. Quote
Gav Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) Is that factual? And given that it's suggested on the website that he's is still drawing a tidy pension, does that seem obvious to a layman that he could claim poverty as a defence. I'd suggest a solicitor would know the ins and outs of this - which is why they can charge what they do. Also, it's probably also likely that the law states you can't borrow more than you can realistically afford to pay back. Hence why he had to his friend to help. Which is where I came in originally: Don't lend money to your mates. Not sticking up for Hendry at all and his situation is different to most... But an IVA for a layman isn't the way to go, if anyone is thinking of taking out such a policy please PM me first, complete rip off in most circumstances, why pay money to a brief when that cash should be paying your creditors??? Edited April 9, 2012 by GAV Quote
perthblue02 Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Is that factual? And given that it's suggested on the website that he's is still drawing a tidy pension, does that seem obvious to a layman that he could claim poverty as a defence. I'd suggest a solicitor would know the ins and outs of this - which is why they can charge what they do. Also, it's probably also likely that the law states you can't borrow more than you can realistically afford to pay back. Hence why he had to his friend to help. Which is where I came in originally: Don't lend money to your mates. or Venky's Quote
Stuart Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Not sticking up for Hendry at all and his situation is different to most... But an IVA for a layman isn't the way to go, if anyone is thinking of taking out such a policy please PM me first, complete rip off in most circumstances, why pay money to a brief when that cash should be paying your creditors??? A solicitor out of t'Yellow Pages or 'GAV' off of BRFCS - you can see why some ignorami would go for the former. It's a good point you make though! Quote
Baz Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Not sticking up for Hendry at all and his situation is different to most... But an IVA for a layman isn't the way to go, if anyone is thinking of taking out such a policy please PM me first, complete rip off in most circumstances, why pay money to a brief when that cash should be paying your creditors??? Agreed on the solicitor / creditor front Gav, but the IVA specialists are much better salesmen than solicitors. I'd recommend your local Citizens Advice Bureau for those with debt problems, or any such free organisations. Quote
Gav Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 A solicitor out of t'Yellow Pages or 'GAV' off of BRFCS - you can see why some ignorami would go for the former. It's a good point you make though! I've said enough on the subject Quote
waggy Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 Wasn't there 'personal reasons' behind his move to Rangers? I MET HIM IN ST TROPEZ DURING THE WORLD CUP 1998,HE TOLD ME HOW MUCH HE AND OTHER SENIOR PLAYERS HATED WOY Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 Lived in a house worth 300k and couldn't/wouldn't pay back money borrowed in good faith?...I think I'd be rather p!ssed off too. Quote
blueboy3333 Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 Just seen him on BBC news saying that the protestors 'are in the minority' and that Kean has handled himself with dignity. What a legend Quote
blueboy3333 Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 Wahey! Good old Colin Wahey! Good old Braddock Quote
Mike Graham Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) Just seen him on BBC news saying that the protestors 'are in the minority' and that Kean has handled himself with dignity. What a legend Must have had a wad off the Venky's to come out with that sh!te. Get a grip Big Col, you are tarnished. Would he fork out for a Season Ticket, or borrow the money for one from some bloke down a local St Annes betting office. Edited April 10, 2012 by preston blue Quote
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Scotland1 Posted September 6, 2018 Posted September 6, 2018 Probably something to do with this (Note one Ian Battersby arrested) https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/former-rangers-star-colin-hendry-12639870 Quote
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