Premier League

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

@chaddyrovers do you think its fair to "give options" for fans and indeed is it thinking of fans. To show SEVEN EFL games at the same time (an awkward time of half 12) every Saturday? Considering the inconvenience to fans.

You asked the similar questions last season. Going on and on. You know why the 7 games now

Midweek games are inconvenience for me, given I work nights but I have accepted that as it's my choice. 

[roversfan99]

I still am none the wiser as to finding a valid justification and it wasnt a question to ask what best suits you personally.

[chaddyrovers]

23 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I still am none the wiser as to finding a valid justification and it wasnt a question to ask what best suits you personally.

You asked similar all season like a broken record week after week. 

You know why.  Clubs and EFL wanted more revenue for TV rights for that to happen, more games had to be available for coverage. Fairly simple reason. More coverage for more revenue 

[roversfan99]

Thats not justification.

[Mattyblue]

Lots more TV games as the clubs (but in the end the players and agents ) wanted more cash. Yep, all agreed.

But seven games at half 12 on a Saturday, why? (No deflections please, specifically answer the question about seven games at half 12).

Edited Tuesday at 05:08 by Mattyblue

[K-Hod]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

You asked similar all season like a broken record week after week. 

You know why.  Clubs and EFL wanted more revenue for TV rights for that to happen, more games had to be available for coverage. Fairly simple reason. More coverage for more revenue 

We all know the why= money.

But that still doesn't make it right. 

You'd have thought a match going fan would have some empathy with other match going fans, but as you've demonstrated before, that isn't the case.

[arbitro]

8 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

You asked the similar questions last season. Going on and on. You know why the 7 games now

Midweek games are inconvenience for me, given I work nights but I have accepted that as it's my choice. 

There have always been midweek games, long before Sky came along.

We play Millwall at Ewood in a 12.30 kick off soon - do you really think it's fair on their supporters setting off at some ungodly hour?

[roversfan99]

He will wriggle out of an answer then say down the line that hes already answered.

[MarkBRFC]

16 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

Eventually, I suspect, there will come a point when it will all implode.

People have been saying this for years and years.

It never will unfortunately.

Edited Tuesday at 07:54 by MarkBRFC

[Wheelton Blue]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

People have been saying this for years and years.

It never will unfortunately.

Exactly.

There's huge untapped foreign markets to go at yet.

See what the Spanish and Italians are doing; league games being played overseas.

It'll be the same here eventually.

[Mattyblue]

Yep, if the NFL about to implode? Of course not, and neither is the Premier League... what future the wider pyramid has is another issue.

[speeeeeeedie]

5 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Yep, if the NFL about to implode? Of course not, and neither is the Premier League... what future the wider pyramid has is another issue.

Speaking NFL here's a Guardian article on Man U's plan to have the UK government help them build their new stadium by funding the relocation of a freight rail hub; Guardian: Man U want government help

I really liked this article. I've seen it countless times over here. Greedy owners threatening to move unless they get a free brand spanking new place to play, then keep all the profits from it.

[chaddyrovers]

On 19/08/2025 at 07:56, arbitro said:

There have always been midweek games, long before Sky came along.

We play Millwall at Ewood in a 12.30 kick off soon - do you really think it's fair on their supporters setting off at some ungodly hour?

I have sympathy for fans but this is why EFL and Sky tried to given fans plenty of notice of this fixture changes, This is why they brought this in.  

On 19/08/2025 at 10:43, Wheelton Blue said:

Exactly.

There's huge untapped foreign markets to go at yet.

See what the Spanish and Italians are doing; league games being played overseas.

It'll be the same here eventually.

The PL and its teams doesn't need to play league games overseas given that The PL goes to America and the far east during pre season. 

Also given the revenue streams from the PL, other leagues don't generate that. 

[Upside Down]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have sympathy for fans but this is why EFL and Sky tried to given fans plenty of notice of this fixture changes, This is why they brought this in.  

The PL and its teams doesn't need to play league games overseas given that The PL goes to America and the far east during pre season. 

Also given the revenue streams from the PL, other leagues don't generate that. 

I'm sorry but this is an outright lie. 

You've shown time and time again that you don't give a fuck about anyone else other than yourself. 

The fixtures being changed on an ad hoc basis constantly bears no effect on your life as Rovers is your top commitment. How that effects anyone else is completely irrelevant to you.

[roversfan99]

It is a lie. Why does giving notice negate the fact that away fans are having to set off at ridiculous hours, possibly before public transport can get them there?

That justification has never arrived. I dont get why any fan would see 7 games at 12.30 as anything other than a bad thing for supporters.

[chaddyrovers]

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

It is a lie. Why does giving notice negate the fact that away fans are having to set off at ridiculous hours, possibly before public transport can get them there?

That justification has never arrived. I dont get why any fan would see 7 games at 12.30 as anything other than a bad thing for supporters.

You have had your justification on this last season, yet 12 months onwards you are banging on about it again and again. The EFL and its clubs wanted more money for TV rights and the only way to achieve this is more games for TV coverage. Its very simple concept to understand. 

No Its isn't a lie at all RF99, so stop talking total bollocks. 

they are setting off a couple of hours maybe even a hour. Its a 4 hours and half journey from Millwall to Rovers. So they would be setting off around 6.30am instead of 8am. That's not factoring possible accidents on the Motorway networks. 

Fans having notice allow them to book hotels, train travel(if that's your plan), possible day off work to book, etc. You wouldn't have to cos you don't work a night shift day or a job that involved working weekend like many football fans do. 

[roversfan99]

Notice is the least they can do. But it doesnt offset the inconvenience that the unjustifiable and inconsiderate decision to show SEVEN games at once at half 12 provides. Simple.

Its greed that just feeds through the clubs and to players and agents. Clubs are still pissing money, ticket prices are no lower and the fans have the double kick in the bollocks of an unnecessarily high number of games moved.

[Mattyblue]

Nope, you have still never explained the rationale for seven games at half 12 (the clubs wanting more cash is why the deal itself was signed, that’s not an explanation to the seven games at half 12, so please can you answer that directly and not do your usual routine of deflection and tangents).

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Notice is the least they can do. But it doesnt offset the inconvenience that the unjustifiable and inconsiderate decision to show SEVEN games at once at half 12 provides. Simple.

Its greed that just feeds through the clubs and to players and agents. Clubs are still pissing money, ticket prices are no lower and the fans have the double kick in the bollocks of an unnecessarily high number of games moved.

7 games is on for exposure for the clubs and then that increase revenue for the EFL and the clubs for TV rights. Simple concept. 

You still going on and on about 12 months is remarkable. You still don't how it's works

[roversfan99]

I do know how it works. I just think it shows a total disregard to match going fans, and I dont see why they need so many on at one time. Its clearly not me who has seen no justification for it. Just repeatedly saying that exposure increases revenue (no shit, sherlock) doesnt justify it.

I know the greed benefits clubs so in turn players, directors and agents. It benefits Sky to have so many games on, so they can keep driving their prices up. It all sticks 2 fingers up to the inconvenienced and out of pocket fans. Yet you lap it up.

[Aqualung]

36 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I do know how it works. I just think it shows a total disregard to match going fans, and I dont see why they need so many on at one time. Its clearly not me who has seen no justification for it. Just repeatedly saying that exposure increases revenue (no shit, sherlock) doesnt justify it.

I know the greed benefits clubs so in turn players, directors and agents. It benefits Sky to have so many games on, so they can keep driving their prices up. It all sticks 2 fingers up to the inconvenienced and out of pocket fans. Yet you lap it up.

If games kicked off at 9am in the future chaddy would lap it up. I'm tiring of his self entitlement and not considering anyone but himself. 

A staunch fan of Rovers no doubt about that but more than a bit selfish in not seeing a bigger picture. 

He says that the likes of Millwall supporters have a 4and a half hour journey north to play us at 12. 30pm. Well, that's true but going to an away fixture for me isn't traipsing over 200 miles, going in the ground, watching a game and then fucking off back home pronto. All for 90 minutes on the pitch. 

A lot more to an away game than that and chaddy knows it. 

12.30 kick offs should be fucked off unless it's a potentially naughty derby fixture. Period. 

[Aqualung]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

You have had your justification on this last season, yet 12 months onwards you are banging on about it again and again. The EFL and its clubs wanted more money for TV rights and the only way to achieve this is more games for TV coverage. Its very simple concept to understand. 

No Its isn't a lie at all RF99, so stop talking total bollocks. 

they are setting off a couple of hours maybe even a hour. Its a 4 hours and half journey from Millwall to Rovers. So they would be setting off around 6.30am instead of 8am. That's not factoring possible accidents on the Motorway networks. 

Fans having notice allow them to book hotels, train travel(if that's your plan), possible day off work to book, etc. You wouldn't have to cos you don't work a night shift day or a job that involved working weekend like many football fans do. 

In a normal world, and i know the world is a bit xxxx right now, the need for any football fan to stay in hotel accommodation for a match is just bonkers. There are exceptions of course for those fans of clubs who live in the far flung quarters of England. 

Millwall ain't that. For them to travel up to us for a 12.30 KO is just a piss take for those fans. 

Can't you empathise with those who wouldn't want to pay their hard earned brass on a bloody hotel room rather than travelling to and from South London in one day at their leisure? 

It's a bloody football match not a long romantic weekend ffs. 

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

I do know how it works. I just think it shows a total disregard to match going fans, and I dont see why they need so many on at one time. Its clearly not me who has seen no justification for it. Just repeatedly saying that exposure increases revenue (no shit, sherlock) doesnt justify it.

I know the greed benefits clubs so in turn players, directors and agents. It benefits Sky to have so many games on, so they can keep driving their prices up. It all sticks 2 fingers up to the inconvenienced and out of pocket fans. Yet you lap it up.

Yet you keep going on and on about week after week, month after month for 12 months now. What have done other than moaning on here? 

What other time could the games be play? Maybe 5.30pm and 8pm on Saturday then 12pm, 2.30pm 5pm and 7pm Sunday? Blimey if they did that you would complaining and moaning then? 

Fans have been plenty of notice of games being moved which they never had before. You planned your time, book hotel and book time of work. If I want to go to Saturday away game, I have to book a day off work, but do I complain or moan like you do, no cos it's my choice to work nights and want to that away game. 

 

[chaddyrovers]

43 minutes ago, Aqualung said:

In a normal world, and i know the world is a bit xxxx right now, the need for any football fan to stay in hotel accommodation for a match is just bonkers. There are exceptions of course for those fans of clubs who live in the far flung quarters of England. 

Millwall ain't that. For them to travel up to us for a 12.30 KO is just a piss take for those fans. 

Can't you empathise with those who wouldn't want to pay their hard earned brass on a bloody hotel room rather than travelling to and from South London in one day at their leisure? 

It's a bloody football match not a long romantic weekend ffs. 

And it's their choice whether to attend or not. If I was going Southampton or Portsmouth game then I would be staying overnight and book a hotel. That's my choice. If I took the missus then we normally make it weekend holiday. 

Of course I can empathise given I am match day going fan

[Mattyblue]

How does being the 7th game kicking off at half 12 buried through the red button give you ‘exposure’? That’s no material difference than a midweek being behind the red button, I don’t recall ‘exposure’ being the buzzword then.

So no actual rationale but just parroting EFL/Sky PR, sounds about right.

Edited 1 hour ago by Mattyblue