2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You can players from overseas for less wages and less transfer free. We have made plenty of good signings from overseas and yes we have some poor ones just like the domestic market. 

We need to be looking in all market even Australia and USA. 

Yes of course, probably things we will never know about but I do think that transfer and who has the major say is a important one

If Batth has sign a straight 2 year contract there then fair enough cos I stand by I wouldn't have done. 1 year contract will club option or something fair enough but not a straight 2 year contract. 

We should have been in talks with Travis, Tronstad and Brittain during this past season so Rovers have no defence to be honest. 

Dolan, I feel he knows about 18 months he wanted to see out of contract and move on a free transfer. 

Erm, ok.

So we can conclude that the primary reason why we are looking in lesser foreign leagues (often at the bottom of) is for financial reasons. And the reason that we aren't extended contracts is again financially driven.

Don't get why Dolan is any different. Had we stuck a reasonable contract offer in front of him, he likely would have signed it. It clearly wasn't a reasonable one.

[JBiz]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Erm, ok.

So we can conclude that the primary reason why we are looking in lesser foreign leagues (often at the bottom of) is for financial reasons. And the reason that we aren't extended contracts is again financially driven.

Don't get why Dolan is any different. Had we stuck a reasonable contract offer in front of him, he likely would have signed it. It clearly wasn't a reasonable one.

What is a reasonable offer for Dolan?

[wilsdenrover]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

 

Does this argument only apply one way? Ie, anyone who says that x or y is a good signing, should that not also be said for fear of them turning out shite?

If people actually wrote off these players, for example Batth and Weimann, then they would be beyond being able to acknowledge that actually, they were good signings.

No, it obviously should work both ways.

But there’s a difference between someone saying they think a player is a good/bad signing and them writing a player off/thinking they’re the next messiah before a ball has been kicked.

 

 

 

 

[Old Codger]

8 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

You're definitely a troll poster. 

Steady on old chap - Mercer is a stalwart of this message board, and capable of linguistic trapezery sufficient to tie the most eloquent of intellectuals in convoluted knots. 

Trolls can't do that 😉

[Tomphil2]

There's no way a player like Dolan on a modest current wage is going to say no to a pay rise even of a few grand in favour of staying on the same money for another 18 months so he walks for free.

Non of that makes sense unless the loyalty bonus is massive or there is a pre agreement with another club and big pay hike/signing on fee.

These are young championship players not multi millionaire Prem academy lads Dolan himself said he was previously in the first team on £300 ish a week.

At the very least you'd sign your contract offer under the stipulation of a get out clause or bid trigger so i think it's obvious he was offered no real pay rise worth its salt.

Edited 5 hours ago by Tomphil2

[Emerald Isle Rover]

12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

 

Does this argument only apply one way? Ie, anyone who says that x or y is a good signing, should that not also be said for fear of them turning out shite?

If people actually wrote off these players, for example Batth and Weimann, then they would be beyond being able to acknowledge that actually, they were good signings.

The argument is applied when there’s a consistent pattern….mercer has the consistent pattern 

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Oh dear, looks like we are sliding back into the bad old days again.

Whether it is right or wrong about the wage cap makes no difference. Whether we have a £10k a week self imposed wage cap or don't, makes no practical difference. Either way we are incapable of keeping our best players due to our approach to contracts. I don't care if we are going around offering £50k a week, if players don't sign the damn thing its the same end result - failure and assets leaving to go to rivals. 

The point is that whatever we are doing isn't working. Hence in the space of 4 years a complete and total exodus of just about every player with value or who could command a deal elsewhere, leaving us with unknowns, academy grads and cheap signings like Forshaw. Truly pathetic. 

Nobody knows what Derby are offering Batth. Maybe it is 2 years, maybe not. You seem to have acquired inside knowledge that they are giving him 2 years and seem to have decided that it is ridiculous for us to have done the same. 

Again, doesn't really matter. What matters is that he is a good player, a leader, was outstanding for us last season, we were a better team with him in the side, and ultimately whatever the cause of it he's deciding to walk away from us after less than a year, walk away from regular game time with us and potentially the captaincy once we've offloaded the incumbent, to join another club. That tells me that what we are offering isn't good enough. Our choice. 

You're rewriting history on Eustace. He left because this club is a shambolic joke, that bungled last summer so much so that he threatened to resign despite only joining in February. A club that trousered almost all of the Adam Wharton and Szmodics cash and left him scratching around for cheap signings to rebuild despite keeping us up. A club that mucked around the easy signings of McFadzean and Batth despite the manager wanting both and from that moment on had his eyes on moving elsewhere. A club that introduced a rookie work experience director of football over the top of Eustace who I'd say has forgotten more about the Championship than Gestede will ever know. 

A club that changes 'project' every year, not because it is trying to get somewhere but because it can't retain staff because they quickly realise it is a lie and doomed to fail because the owners down aren't fit for purpose. 

People like you who reset every summer and forget about all the above and invent narratives to make you feel better about the state of play at Ewood play right into the regime's grubby hands. 

Rovers don't want to explore the overseas market any more than they did 10 years ago. It is just the way we have chosen to go because by choosing to slash costs it is inevitable that we have to go to the bargain basement to find signings. Their choice. If Eustace had been a good boy, shut up and got on with it and stayed put they'd be doing something totally different now. 

There's no plan. It is just fake and a con job.

 

We are in talks with our key players and lets see what happens then, as I said I think Dolan decide to test the free agency 18 months ago. 

I said my opinion on Eustace and why I think one of important reason was Transfers and how much say he had in transfers. At Derby He has more say in transfers and who they want where at Rovers his role was a head coach who decide from a 3-5 players shortlist who we sign. I have moved on from Eustace era here. I look forward to this summer and who we sign but also what changes Tactically and style Ismael will bring in during pre season. 

I stand by my Batth's comments and no I wouldn't offered him a 2 year contract. We been burned in the past with Ayala who injuring record wasn't good and Mulgrew who legs went very quickly. A one year contract was right for Batth and Weimann at they aged. 

I don't see what the major problem is exploring and signing players we want this summer especially when you want pace wide and more athleticism in the team. Rovers started this 2 years ago under GB and JDT with Tronstad, Wahlstead and Sigurdsson signings and we continue this last summer with signings like Ohashi, Toth and Gueye. 10 years we didn't the explore the European market and stay in the domestic market. Plenty of good standard Championship players out there in the European market

Yes I am looking forward to this season and seeing how we play, what the team looks and I will be at the first friendly supporting my Rovers team. 

 

[BankEnd Rover]

14 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Why, do you think VI will be pleased with the transfer activity thus far?

What a silly comment.

Activity this far? We've signed 2 players, some clubs haven't signed anyone. Whether they'll be any good or not we won't know until they kicked a ball. 
 

Before you go and say about loosing Weimann and Baath, like @Emerald Isle Rover said most posters were in uproar when we signed them last year so before passing judgement, let's see, before saying players arnt good enough.
 

[chaddyrovers]

15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Erm, ok.

So we can conclude that the primary reason why we are looking in lesser foreign leagues (often at the bottom of) is for financial reasons. And the reason that we aren't extended contracts is again financially driven.

Don't get why Dolan is any different. Had we stuck a reasonable contract offer in front of him, he likely would have signed it. It clearly wasn't a reasonable one.

I never said the reason we haven't renew any contracts was financially driven did I? We don't know. 

GB tried with Dolan and he was changing at the times but we did offer him a new contract. What is reasonable contract offer for Dolan, what terms would you offer him and length of contract? 

You are looking Overseas cos the market is one where you can get a championship standard players for good wages and fee just like we don't for many years under a range of different managers. Listened to the Andy Watson with Elliott Jackson, what a great insight and why plenty of clubs do look overseas now

[chaddyrovers]

25 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Why, do you think VI will be pleased with the transfer activity thus far?

What a silly comment.

Wel, why don't you asked Ismael then but given his comments on Forshaw shows why we sign him on for another 12 months. 

Ismael wanted pace wide and box to box midfielder which we have signed. Probably wanted another couple in but we got 2 in who matched what he wanted in terms of profile of player for those positions

[RevidgeBlue]

20 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Not if its only just been introduced in terms of new sigings.

In other words regardless of wages now being paid you can't bring in any new ones on over 10k a week.

Not a dig at you but i'm amazed this seems to be so difficult to comprehend although obviously it's only a rumour previous experience tells us how things can change here overnight.

Then change back again !

It might possibly be true for new signings but it still seems a bit far fetched to me.

It's a potential nightmare for team spirit and bonding. You'd have the newbies on sub 10 k, the ones who've had their contracts extended who'll be on something half decent and then the odd one like Cantwell who's allegedly on £25k - £30k p.w.

Half of them would be looking at the others thinking, "Why's he on so much more than me?"

[roversfan99]

23 minutes ago, JBiz said:

What is a reasonable offer for Dolan?

One that he would accept.

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wel, why don't you asked Ismael then but given his comments on Forshaw shows why we sign him on for another 12 months. 

Ismael wanted pace wide and box to box midfielder which we have signed. Probably wanted another couple in but we got 2 in who matched what he wanted in terms of profile of player for those positions

He didn't "probably want" a couple more in. He wanted 90% of the business done (realistically or otherwise) by the start of pre season.

We have 2 signings in, so probably about 25% and a hell of a lot of uncertainty.

He would have expected Batth and Weimann to sign, or at least hope. So we have 2 in, those 2 and Dolan and the expected loanees all departed, and crucially huge question marks over the future of 4 key players with still none tied down or even with offers in front of him.

He also will publically endorse every single signing we make.

Edited 4 hours ago by roversfan99

[Gav]

27 minutes ago, Old Codger said:

Steady on old chap - Mercer is a stalwart of this message board, and capable of linguistic trapezery sufficient to tie the most eloquent of intellectuals in convoluted knots. 

Trolls can't do that 😉

I’ve just spat my drink out, bravo Old Codger, funny 😂

[roversfan99]

22 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

The argument is applied when there’s a consistent pattern….mercer has the consistent pattern 

 

27 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

No, it obviously should work both ways.

But there’s a difference between someone saying they think a player is a good/bad signing and them writing a player off/thinking they’re the next messiah before a ball has been kicked.

 

 

 

 

If these posts were aimed specifically at Mercer, then that is fair. He is beyond parody.

As you said, people should be able to say they like/don't like a signing, as long as they change that opinion if they are wrong.

[lraC]

11 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Activity this far? We've signed 2 players, some clubs haven't signed anyone. Whether they'll be any good or not we won't know until they kicked a ball. 
 

Before you go and say about loosing Weimann and Baath, like @Emerald Isle Rover said most posters were in uproar when we signed them last year so before passing judgement, let's see, before saying players arnt good enough.
 

Losing, not loosing.

Lose, not win, loose, not tight. 

[roversfan99]

11 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Activity this far? We've signed 2 players, some clubs haven't signed anyone. Whether they'll be any good or not we won't know until they kicked a ball. 
 

Before you go and say about loosing Weimann and Baath, like @Emerald Isle Rover said most posters were in uproar when we signed them last year so before passing judgement, let's see, before saying players arnt good enough.
 

What has what people said last summer about Weimann and Batth got anything to do with that question?!

Batth in particular did do well, and thus both leave holes we seemingly didn't expect to have to fill. What people posted on here when they signed months before Ismael joined is totally irrelevant.

Ismael wanted 90% of business done by now, his words, so with 2 in, 2 more out than expected and still none of the key players' futures resolved, I suspect he probably isn't overly happy.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

 

If these posts were aimed specifically at Mercer, then that is fair. He is beyond parody.

As you said, people should be able to say they like/don't like a signing, as long as they change that opinion if they are wrong.

Whilst I agree id still take the stance on if Iv been wrong about players before, I wouldn’t necessarily continue to make the same judgement but that’s me of course and yes my post was specifically aimed at mercer 

[Ossydave]

The way Dolan talks about himself, he clearly rates himself more than anyone on here does.  As such I dare say he’s asking for a pretty hefty contract. 
 

He’s clearly close to his family so pretty sure he’d want to stay in the area, his problem might be a lack of offers though, I can’t see any north west teams championship and above being interested. 

[roversfan99]

Or more likely considering he is one of many players in recent years that have not signed new deals, that we aren't paying market rate.

[RevidgeBlue]

13 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Activity this far? We've signed 2 players, some clubs haven't signed anyone. Whether they'll be any good or not we won't know until they kicked a ball. 
 

Before you go and say about loosing Weimann and Baath, like @Emerald Isle Rover said most posters were in uproar when we signed them last year so before passing judgement, let's see, before saying players arnt good enough.
 

Personally I feel we're scraping the bottom of an extremely deep barrel with these signings but you're right, have to give them a chance etc etc.

On the other hand just because certain players who might not have looked very promising when they were signed last year might have exceeded expectations, doesn't mean that this year's seemingly uninspiring batch will do the same.

[JBiz]

13 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

One that he would accept.

Oh come on, you spend a hundred words on dissecting players and other decisions but can’t even offer more than a sentence on a simple question?

it doesn’t matter though,  because we both know that being able to offer competitive wages for the players at the top of the championship normally requires that 45m+ parachute payment, a high turnover and/or ambitious owners.

We don’t have any of those three things.

[M_B]

1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Two of those leaving you said last summer were utter desperation signings….not sure why your so much in uproar now 

Aye, there's nothing like an imminent departure to raise a player's stock. It's like Jackanory on here this time of year. 

[BankEnd Rover]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

What has what people said last summer about Weimann and Batth got anything to do with that question?!

Batth in particular did do well, and thus both leave holes we seemingly didn't expect to have to fill. What people posted on here when they signed months before Ismael joined is totally irrelevant.

Ismael wanted 90% of business done by now, his words, so with 2 in, 2 more out than expected and still none of the key players' futures resolved, I suspect he probably isn't overly happy.

 Christ this is escalating...

My point is saying Mercer a troll account, purely for the fact that he's on repeat every year saying players they arnt good enough...Wonder what he thought of Baath and Weimann signing last year? Hmm

 

[OnionBalaji]

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