2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 hour ago, Waggy76 said:

True to a point  but we had Eustace as manager , who is a far superior manager than the one we have now !

Far superior really? Hasn’t achieved much doesn’t stay at clubs long enough to really determine that.

who would I rather at present no doubt Eustace but to state he’s far superior is a bit of a stretch 

[JBiz]

2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

We don’t have skint owners……and he corrected himself by saying little of the money is significantly reinvested into the playing squad 

I’ve never once said we have skint owners, we have disinterested shysters.

The point that seemingly is impossible for you and few others: Our biggest outlay is wages, aka money spent on the football team, the squad. 
 

The accounts are facts. Nobody is arguing for or against their ownership here, the point is that the money made from sales is being used on the football side. If it isn’t, then where is it?

[Waggy76]

Just now, JBiz said:

I’ve never once said we have skint owners, we have disinterested shysters.

The point that seemingly is impossible for you and few others: Our biggest outlay is wages, aka money spent on the football team, the squad. 
 

The accounts are facts. Nobody is arguing for or against their ownership here, the point is that the money made from sales is being used on the football side. If it isn’t, then where is it?

Very good question !

 

[DutchRover]

I think it's more that everyone expects wages to be included in the budget Venky's send each year, not reliant on players sales to fund. As you say they can afford to and just aren't but the outrage is justified.

Every other club manages to re-invest at least some of their outgoing transfer revenue into a transfer budget, we just use it as an excuse for Venky's not to send money.

Add to that, the fact that they seem to actively cutting the wage bill to save more money and you wonder what the point of owning the club is anyway.

[simongarnerisgod]

any news on the ajax lad????

[K-Hod]

16 minutes ago, JBiz said:

I’ve never once said we have skint owners, we have disinterested shysters.

The point that seemingly is impossible for you and few others: Our biggest outlay is wages, aka money spent on the football team, the squad. 
 

The accounts are facts. Nobody is arguing for or against their ownership here, the point is that the money made from sales is being used on the football side. If it isn’t, then where is it?

Only the Rao family can tell you the answer to that.
They certainly aren’t spending it on transfer fees, though!

[JBiz]

Just now, K-Hod said:

Only the Rao family can tell you the answer to that. They certainly aren’t spending it on transfer fees, though!

They’re not interested, they set arbitrary budgets and let unqualified shits run the club from the top. I don’t think they have any answers or knowledge of day to day running of the club.

Still the question remains, is this unspent boon sat in the bank, or is it partially already spent on wages, scheduled for next seasons deficit?

[Emerald Isle Rover]

13 minutes ago, JBiz said:

I’ve never once said we have skint owners, we have disinterested shysters.

The point that seemingly is impossible for you and few others: Our biggest outlay is wages, aka money spent on the football team, the squad. 
 

The accounts are facts. Nobody is arguing for or against their ownership here, the point is that the money made from sales is being used on the football side. If it isn’t, then where is it?

Good question we would love to know 

let’s take millwall as the perfect example so no attendance excuse or wage bill excuse can be used

24/25 lower average home attendance than us 

pretty much the same average wage bill 

Fleming gone for approx 8 million 

coburn in for approx 6 million

23/24 home attendance again very similar 

wages again similar 

esse sold for 14 million 

6 x players in for just over 10 million

a direct comparison to us with distinctly differing re investment 

 

[JBiz]

2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Good question we would love to know 

let’s take millwall as the perfect example so no attendance excuse or wage bill excuse can be used

24/25 lower average home attendance than us 

pretty much the same average wage bill 

Fleming gone for approx 8 million 

coburn in for approx 6 million

23/24 home attendance again very similar 

wages again similar 

esse sold for 14 million 

6 x players in for just over 10 million

a direct comparison to us with distinctly differing re investment 

 

https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/14/millwall-football-club-submit-annual-report-and-financial-statements/
 

yet reported a 19m loss?

[DutchRover]

Loss is normal for almost every football club in the world

[Emerald Isle Rover]

5 minutes ago, JBiz said:

https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/14/millwall-football-club-submit-annual-report-and-financial-statements/
 

yet reported a 19m loss?

Like most clubs report…that’s the point being made 

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Far superior really? Hasn’t achieved much doesn’t stay at clubs long enough to really determine that.

who would I rather at present no doubt Eustace but to state he’s far superior is a bit of a stretch 

Strongly disagree there.

Given the prevailing circumstances at each Club Eustace has been wildly successful in his last appointments and was brought in by Derby to keep them up. He succeeded.

VI hasnt impressed in either of his last 2 permanent appointments and was brought in to keep us in the play off positions. He failed. Indeed it only took him one full game and ten minutes of the Derby game to undo a good season's work by Eustace

Therefore recent evidence would tend to suggest that  Eustace is very much a Coach on the up whereas VI is yesterday's man who's  only ever had a good spell at one Club.

Similar to Lambert/Coyle etc etc.

 

[Exiled_Rover]

37 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Far superior really? Hasn’t achieved much doesn’t stay at clubs long enough to really determine that.

who would I rather at present no doubt Eustace but to state he’s far superior is a bit of a stretch 

Had Birmingham in the Playoffs when he was sacked there. Had us in the Playoffs when he walked out. Performed the great escape with Derby.

I'd say he's pretty good.

[RevidgeBlue]

12 minutes ago, JBiz said:

They’re not interested, they set arbitrary budgets and let unqualified shits run the club from the top. I don’t think they have any answers or knowledge of day to day running of the club.

Still the question remains, is this unspent boon sat in the bank, or is it partially already spent on wages, scheduled for next seasons deficit?

What's the point you're trying to make?

At best it appears that since the Court case we're expected to wash our own face, and any transfer income is applied towards keeping the lights on.

Where cash flow dictates they need to put some money in because transfer fees are only paid in installments etc, SO FAR they've sent some money over purportedly for essential running expenses only.

Our so called DOF has said that our budget doesn't change no matter who is sold.

Are you happy with that?.

[Exiled_Rover]

39 minutes ago, JBiz said:

I’ve never once said we have skint owners, we have disinterested shysters.

The point that seemingly is impossible for you and few others: Our biggest outlay is wages, aka money spent on the football team, the squad. 
 

The accounts are facts. Nobody is arguing for or against their ownership here, the point is that the money made from sales is being used on the football side. If it isn’t, then where is it?

The accounts are not facts as they're being investigated for fraud.

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Had Birmingham in the Playoffs when he was sacked there. Had us in the Playoffs when he walked out. Performed the great escape with Derby.

I'd say he's pretty good.

eustace is definately on the way up,depending on how long he stays at derby,i expect them to be challenging for promotion,maybe not this season,the season after they`ll be definately one to watch

[Waggy76]

35 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

I think it's more that everyone expects wages to be included in the budget Venky's send each year, not reliant on players sales to fund. As you say they can afford to and just aren't but the outrage is justified.

Every other club manages to re-invest at least some of their outgoing transfer revenue into a transfer budget, we just use it as an excuse for Venky's not to send money.

Add to that, the fact that they seem to actively cutting the wage bill to save more money and you wonder what the point of owning the club is anyway.

Another very good question !

[JBiz]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The accounts are not facts as they're being investigated for fraud.

Do you mean the Indian court case? Or Rovers specific financial reports.

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

What's the point you're trying to make?

At best it appears that since the Court case we're expected to wash our own face, and any transfer income is applied towards keeping the lights on.

Where cash flow dictates they need to put some money in because transfer fees are only paid in installments etc, SO FAR they've sent some money over purportedly for essential running expenses only.

Our so called DOF has said that our budget doesn't change no matter who is sold.

Are you happy with that?.

The simple point is lots of money we’ve received in sales has plugged a gap between other revenue and the wage bill.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Strongly disagree there.

Given the prevailing circumstances at each Club Eustace has been wildly successful in his last appointments and was brought in by Derby to keep them up. He succeeded.

VI hasnt impressed in either of his last 2 permanent appointments and was brought in to keep us in the play off positions. He failed. Indeed it only took him one full game and ten minutes of the Derby game to undo a good season's work by Eustace

Therefore recent evidence would tend to suggest that  Eustace is very much a Coach on the up whereas VI is yesterday's man who's  only ever had a good spell at one Club.

Similar to Lambert/Coyle etc etc.

 

I stand by what I said seasons are 46 games Eustace has had good spells but nothing has ever been finished so it’s all assumption at this stage 

I stated he would be my preference but vastly superior to me is too far with little to no evidence really 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 minute ago, JBiz said:

Do you mean the Indian court case? Or Rovers specific financial reports.

They're clearly linked.

You're not going to be squeaky clean in one aspect of your business if you're dirty in another. 

The figures simply do not add up - this flat £20m loss year in, year out despite the fact they've decimated our playing squad stinks to high heaven.

[TurkishDelight]

37 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

any news on the ajax lad????

No. Nothing in the Norwegian press other than the stuff from the Netherlands yesterday. No news today. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

16 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Had Birmingham in the Playoffs when he was sacked there. Had us in the Playoffs when he walked out. Performed the great escape with Derby.

I'd say he's pretty good.

Didn’t dispute that other than the wording ‘vastly superior’

[JBiz]

6 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

They're clearly linked.

You're not going to be squeaky clean in one aspect of your business if you're dirty in another. 

The figures simply do not add up - this flat £20m loss year in, year out despite the fact they've decimated our playing squad stinks to high heaven.

I don’t agree but fair enough. I’ve always tried to steer clear from rabbit holes and such! Considering Millwall reported their staff costs for 24/25 as 25 million, maybe they’re up to the same game?

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, TurkishDelight said:

No. Nothing in the Norwegian press other than the stuff from the Netherlands yesterday. No news today. 

ajax probably laughing at our opening offer and they`ve touted him elsewhere

[Emerald Isle Rover]

13 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

eustace is definately on the way up,depending on how long he stays at derby,i expect them to be challenging for promotion,maybe not this season,the season after they`ll be definately one to watch

Have one of the oldest squads in the league by far - would need some serious youngsters to come through