roversfan99 Posted Saturday at 12:32 Posted Saturday at 12:32 1 minute ago, Forever Blue said: Account started in June, gets transfers info before anyone else, is very defensive when it comes to people criticising the club operations.Β Β Im not one for conspiracy theories, but I would say with some certainty he/she is a club employee, or someone close to a club employee.Β Prediction. Now the account has started to get a bit of criticism towards the running of the club and his defence of it. Toys will come out of the pram and information will no longer be shared. Quote
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Rover84 Posted Saturday at 12:37 Posted Saturday at 12:37 EJ thinks Brittain is not expected to play. Wouldnβt surprise me if heβs already in the north east 2 Quote
Hasta Posted Saturday at 12:37 Posted Saturday at 12:37 14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Blackburn Rovers contract latest as impasse continues | Lancashire Telegraph Β That just says talks started. Ismael said talks were starting and would intensify after the season ended in 10 days. Which reminds me that Easter was late and only a couple of weeks before the season ended. As far as we know from reports, Rovers didnβt offer a contract until May when the retained list was released.Β It should have been sorted back in January once we saw how good a players he was. The closer to June it gets, the more he would,start considering other option. Quote
Forever Blue Posted Saturday at 12:39 Posted Saturday at 12:39 3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Prediction. Now the account has started to get a bit of criticism towards the running of the club and his defence of it. Toys will come out of the pram and information will no longer be shared. Iβd be surprised. He/she clearly has inside knowledge but clearly also has an agenda.Β Β In order to be seen as legit he/she has to keep getting stuff right, then people will believe the stuff that defends the club but isnβt right.Β He or she is going nowhereβ¦.but I could be wrong.Β 1 Quote
AVE1875 Posted Saturday at 12:40 Posted Saturday at 12:40 2 minutes ago, Hasta said: That just says talks started. Ismael said talks were starting and would intensify after the season ended in 10 days. Which reminds me that Easter was late and only a couple of weeks before the season ended. As far as we know from reports, Rovers didnβt offer a contract until May when the retained list was released.Β It should have been sorted back in January once we saw how good a players he was. The closer to June it gets, the more he would,start considering other option. That's my impression from it all when reading between the lines, but of course could just be my perception of things... I thought it looked like no contracts were offered until they confirmed the retained list... I could be wrong, who knows!Β 1 Quote
EgyptianPete Posted Saturday at 12:42 Posted Saturday at 12:42 3 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said: No that is bollocks. If you were in work and had an offer from another company to double your wage and they blocked it due to competition would you be fuming? And drop your efficiency in the workplace? ABSOLUTELYΒ Difference here is CB has a 12 month contract to fulfil, a guaranteed wage, about time a player is not paid if he does not adhere to his contract. An employee can give notice depending on how high in the organisation they are probably at most 3 months, in general 2 weeks or a month. If you dropped efficiency you get verbal/written warnings then the sack. so no comparison. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted Saturday at 12:44 Posted Saturday at 12:44 Assuming this account is correct then I know technically no-one should ever refuse to play but in these somewhat unprecedented circumstances I can't blame anyone for doing anything they can to extricate themselves from this circus. The players all saw what happened to Eustace in February. He went into bat on their behalf with Waggott and Co and came away completely empty handed. This summer they and their agent have been waiting for a decent deal to be put in front of them, according to most accounts that hasnt been forthcoming - What exactly are they meant to do? 1 Quote
Forever Blue Posted Saturday at 12:46 Posted Saturday at 12:46 21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Blackburn Rovers contract latest as impasse continues | Lancashire Telegraph Β The key part of that article is the bit about Weimann and Batth joining Β Rovers on low wages and now expecting a better contract as they had proved themselves.Β Β If youβve been paying attention it is quite clear Derby will have offered that salary increase, but we wonβt. Or at least we wonβt have offered enough.Β Β Extrapolate that with Tron, Trav and Brittain.Β Β We are low-balling players with contracts that donβt reflect their value on the open market. They have no option but to move on.Β Β Hope that sinks in.Β 4 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted Saturday at 12:51 Posted Saturday at 12:51 6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Assuming this account is correct then I know technically no-one should ever refuse to play but in these somewhat unprecedented circumstances I can't blame anyone for doing anything they can to extricate themselves from this circus. The players all saw what happened to Eustace in February. He went into bat on their behalf with Waggott and Co and came away completely empty handed. This summer they and their agent have been waiting for a decent deal to be put in front of them, according to most accounts that hasnt been forthcoming - What exactly are they meant to do? In Brittains case though he has openly stated he is happy at rovers and by all accounts was ready to sign a new deal this week so in these circumstances refusing to play is out of orderΒ Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted Saturday at 12:54 Posted Saturday at 12:54 5 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: We are low-balling players with contracts that donβt reflect their value on the open market. They have no option but to move on.Β That's it in a nutshell. Never more obvious than with Dolan. And If we couldn't tie down Batth and Weimann on one year extensions then realistically we have no chance of tying down any younger players on longer deals. Quote
Hasta Posted Saturday at 12:55 Posted Saturday at 12:55 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: In Brittains case though he has openly stated he is happy at rovers and by all accounts was ready to sign a new deal this week so in these circumstances refusing to play is out of orderΒ Or that story has been put out because they knew they were going to sell and wanted to make it look like they tried. Brittain and his team must have known there would be interest so why would you go from βabout to signβ to βwanting to move to Boroβ. Whatever the truth or narrative, you are correct as in he shouldnβt refuse to play IF the club are demanding him to. If , like Szmodics, he says I donβt want to and they say βfair enoughβ then thatβs different. Β If it was a league game Iβd be spitting though. Edited Saturday at 12:55 by Hasta Quote
Forever Blue Posted Saturday at 12:59 Posted Saturday at 12:59 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: In Brittains case though he has openly stated he is happy at rovers and by all accounts was ready to sign a new deal this week so in these circumstances refusing to play is out of orderΒ Iβm sure they are happy at Rovers. Iβm also sure theyβd be happy with a pay rise elsewhere. Or happy to walk away next summer on a free.Β Β What Iβm sure theyβre not happy to do is sign a long term contract on a wage that doesnβt reflect their value.Β Edited Saturday at 13:00 by Forever Blue Quote
EgyptianPete Posted Saturday at 12:59 Posted Saturday at 12:59 7 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: The key part of that article is the bit about Weimann and Batth joining Β Rovers on low wages and now expecting a better contract as they had proved themselves.Β Β If youβve been paying attention it is quite clear Derby will have offered that salary increase, but we wonβt. Or at least we wonβt have offered enough.Β Β Extrapolate that with Tron, Trav and Brittain.Β Β We are low-balling players with contracts that donβt reflect their value on the open market. They have no option but to move on.Β Β Hope that sinks in.Β Not defending the club here at all but I do wonder where some fans get their information from, I would like to see in black and white what rovers offered and what Derby offered, then make comment, both players in their mid 30's, for me a 2yr extension is not viable. We all have opinions but no need for comments like HOPE THAT SINKS IN. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted Saturday at 13:00 Posted Saturday at 13:00 12 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Assuming this account is correct then I know technically no-one should ever refuse to play but in these somewhat unprecedented circumstances I can't blame anyone for doing anything they can to extricate themselves from this circus. The players all saw what happened to Eustace in February. He went into bat on their behalf with Waggott and Co and came away completely empty handed. This summer they and their agent have been waiting for a decent deal to be put in front of them, according to most accounts that hasnt been forthcoming - What exactly are they meant to do? as footballers going into their last year of a contract with no sign of an extension,the last thing you want is to get a bad injury and end up on the football scrapheap with no club,the horrible ***** at rovers would probably release you and then you`de have to do a trial to get another short term deal,at 28/29 travis.sonny and britainΒ need one last big contract before they start slowing down,they ar`nt getting it at ewood 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted Saturday at 13:01 Posted Saturday at 13:01 1 minute ago, Forever Blue said: Iβm sure they are happy at Rovers. Iβm also sure theyβd be happy with a pay rise elsewhere. Or happy to walk away next summer on a free.Β Exactly so refusing to play isnβt the answer Quote
Forever Blue Posted Saturday at 13:02 Posted Saturday at 13:02 1 minute ago, EgyptianPete said: Not defending the club here at all but I do wonder where some fans get their information from, I would like to see in black and white what rovers offered and what Derby offered, then make comment, both players in their mid 30's, for me a 2yr extension is not viable. We all have opinions but no need for comments like HOPE THAT SINKS IN. Relax. Itβs clear whatβs happening. I was being kind.Β 2 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted Saturday at 13:03 Posted Saturday at 13:03 1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said: as footballers going into their last year of a contract with no sign of an extension,the last thing you want is to get a bad injury and end up on the football scrapheap with no club,the horrible ***** at rovers would probably release you and then you`de have to do a trial to get another short term deal,at 28/29 travis.sonny and britainΒ need one last big contract before they start slowing down,they ar`nt getting it at ewood Why are travis and tronstad playing today thenΒ Quote
Forever Blue Posted Saturday at 13:03 Posted Saturday at 13:03 1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Exactly so refusing to play isnβt the answer Totally agree. Totally unprofessional, same as szmodics. They are all a bunch of entitled fuckers.Β 3 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted Saturday at 13:08 Posted Saturday at 13:08 2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Why are travis and tronstad playing today thenΒ thats their choice,it is only a preseason kickabout after all,i don`t expect them to be at rovers for the start of the season do you??? Quote
Rover84 Posted Saturday at 13:11 Posted Saturday at 13:11 Game is on YouTube for those who ainβt going EJ 3 Quote
Rover84 Posted Saturday at 13:12 Posted Saturday at 13:12 Also a lad from Liverpool there, Farkas, Hungarian midfielder Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted Saturday at 13:13 Posted Saturday at 13:13 Just now, Rover84 said: Also a lad from Liverpool there, Farkas, Hungarian midfielder Farkas has been at Rovers for ages now. 1 Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted Saturday at 13:15 Posted Saturday at 13:15 Anyone know who the trialist is?Β Β Strange both Toth and Pears missing. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted Saturday at 13:15 Posted Saturday at 13:15 5 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: thats their choice,it is only a preseason kickabout after all,i don`t expect them to be at rovers for the start of the season do you??? Not relevant to what weβre saying. Iβm saying Brittain refusing to play is just simply wrong regardless of a pre season game or notΒ 1 Quote
Damien Posted Saturday at 13:17 Posted Saturday at 13:17 Do you have a link or a specific tag line for the game on YouTube? Quote
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