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Posted
1 minute ago, Forever Blue said:

Account started in June, gets transfers info before anyone else, is very defensive when it comes to people criticising the club operations.Β 
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Im not one for conspiracy theories, but I would say with some certainty he/she is a club employee, or someone close to a club employee.Β 

Prediction.

Now the account has started to get a bit of criticism towards the running of the club and his defence of it. Toys will come out of the pram and information will no longer be shared.

Posted
14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

That just says talks started. Ismael said talks were starting and would intensify after the season ended in 10 days. Which reminds me that Easter was late and only a couple of weeks before the season ended.

As far as we know from reports, Rovers didn’t offer a contract until May when the retained list was released.Β 

It should have been sorted back in January once we saw how good a players he was. The closer to June it gets, the more he would,start considering other option.

Posted
3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Prediction.

Now the account has started to get a bit of criticism towards the running of the club and his defence of it. Toys will come out of the pram and information will no longer be shared.

I’d be surprised. He/she clearly has inside knowledge but clearly also has an agenda.Β 
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In order to be seen as legit he/she has to keep getting stuff right, then people will believe the stuff that defends the club but isn’t right.Β 

He or she is going nowhere….but I could be wrong.Β 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Hasta said:

That just says talks started. Ismael said talks were starting and would intensify after the season ended in 10 days. Which reminds me that Easter was late and only a couple of weeks before the season ended.

As far as we know from reports, Rovers didn’t offer a contract until May when the retained list was released.Β 

It should have been sorted back in January once we saw how good a players he was. The closer to June it gets, the more he would,start considering other option.

That's my impression from it all when reading between the lines, but of course could just be my perception of things...

I thought it looked like no contracts were offered until they confirmed the retained list... I could be wrong, who knows!Β 

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Posted
3 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

No that is bollocks.

If you were in work and had an offer from another company to double your wage and they blocked it due to competition would you be fuming? And drop your efficiency in the workplace? ABSOLUTELYΒ 

Difference here is CB has a 12 month contract to fulfil, a guaranteed wage, about time a player is not paid if he does not adhere to his contract.

An employee can give notice depending on how high in the organisation they are probably at most 3 months, in general 2 weeks or a month. If you dropped efficiency you get verbal/written warnings then the sack. so no comparison.

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Posted

Assuming this account is correct then I know technically no-one should ever refuse to play but in these somewhat unprecedented circumstances I can't blame anyone for doing anything they can to extricate themselves from this circus.

The players all saw what happened to Eustace in February. He went into bat on their behalf with Waggott and Co and came away completely empty handed. This summer they and their agent have been waiting for a decent deal to be put in front of them, according to most accounts that hasnt been forthcoming - What exactly are they meant to do?

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Posted
21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The key part of that article is the bit about Weimann and Batth joining Β Rovers on low wages and now expecting a better contract as they had proved themselves.Β 
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If you’ve been paying attention it is quite clear Derby will have offered that salary increase, but we won’t. Or at least we won’t have offered enough.Β 
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Extrapolate that with Tron, Trav and Brittain.Β 
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We are low-balling players with contracts that don’t reflect their value on the open market. They have no option but to move on.Β 
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Hope that sinks in.Β 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Assuming this account is correct then I know technically no-one should ever refuse to play but in these somewhat unprecedented circumstances I can't blame anyone for doing anything they can to extricate themselves from this circus.

The players all saw what happened to Eustace in February. He went into bat on their behalf with Waggott and Co and came away completely empty handed. This summer they and their agent have been waiting for a decent deal to be put in front of them, according to most accounts that hasnt been forthcoming - What exactly are they meant to do?

In Brittains case though he has openly stated he is happy at rovers and by all accounts was ready to sign a new deal this week so in these circumstances refusing to play is out of orderΒ 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

We are low-balling players with contracts that don’t reflect their value on the open market. They have no option but to move on.Β 

That's it in a nutshell.

Never more obvious than with Dolan.

And If we couldn't tie down Batth and Weimann on one year extensions then realistically we have no chance of tying down any younger players on longer deals.

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

In Brittains case though he has openly stated he is happy at rovers and by all accounts was ready to sign a new deal this week so in these circumstances refusing to play is out of orderΒ 

Or that story has been put out because they knew they were going to sell and wanted to make it look like they tried. Brittain and his team must have known there would be interest so why would you go from β€œabout to sign” to β€œwanting to move to Boro”.

Whatever the truth or narrative, you are correct as in he shouldn’t refuse to play IF the club are demanding him to.

If , like Szmodics, he says I don’t want to and they say β€œfair enough” then that’s different.
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If it was a league game I’d be spitting though.

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

In Brittains case though he has openly stated he is happy at rovers and by all accounts was ready to sign a new deal this week so in these circumstances refusing to play is out of orderΒ 

I’m sure they are happy at Rovers. I’m also sure they’d be happy with a pay rise elsewhere. Or happy to walk away next summer on a free.Β 
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What I’m sure they’re not happy to do is sign a long term contract on a wage that doesn’t reflect their value.Β 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

The key part of that article is the bit about Weimann and Batth joining Β Rovers on low wages and now expecting a better contract as they had proved themselves.Β 
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If you’ve been paying attention it is quite clear Derby will have offered that salary increase, but we won’t. Or at least we won’t have offered enough.Β 
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Extrapolate that with Tron, Trav and Brittain.Β 
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We are low-balling players with contracts that don’t reflect their value on the open market. They have no option but to move on.Β 
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Hope that sinks in.Β 

Not defending the club here at all but I do wonder where some fans get their information from, I would like to see in black and white what rovers offered and what Derby offered, then make comment, both players in their mid 30's, for me a 2yr extension is not viable. We all have opinions but no need for comments like HOPE THAT SINKS IN.

Posted
12 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Assuming this account is correct then I know technically no-one should ever refuse to play but in these somewhat unprecedented circumstances I can't blame anyone for doing anything they can to extricate themselves from this circus.

The players all saw what happened to Eustace in February. He went into bat on their behalf with Waggott and Co and came away completely empty handed. This summer they and their agent have been waiting for a decent deal to be put in front of them, according to most accounts that hasnt been forthcoming - What exactly are they meant to do?

as footballers going into their last year of a contract with no sign of an extension,the last thing you want is to get a bad injury and end up on the football scrapheap with no club,the horrible ***** at rovers would probably release you and then you`de have to do a trial to get another short term deal,at 28/29 travis.sonny and britainΒ  need one last big contract before they start slowing down,they ar`nt getting it at ewood

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Posted
1 minute ago, EgyptianPete said:

Not defending the club here at all but I do wonder where some fans get their information from, I would like to see in black and white what rovers offered and what Derby offered, then make comment, both players in their mid 30's, for me a 2yr extension is not viable. We all have opinions but no need for comments like HOPE THAT SINKS IN.

Relax. It’s clear what’s happening. I was being kind.Β 

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Posted
1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

as footballers going into their last year of a contract with no sign of an extension,the last thing you want is to get a bad injury and end up on the football scrapheap with no club,the horrible ***** at rovers would probably release you and then you`de have to do a trial to get another short term deal,at 28/29 travis.sonny and britainΒ  need one last big contract before they start slowing down,they ar`nt getting it at ewood

Why are travis and tronstad playing today thenΒ 

Posted
5 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

thats their choice,it is only a preseason kickabout after all,i don`t expect them to be at rovers for the start of the season do you???

Not relevant to what we’re saying. I’m saying Brittain refusing to play is just simply wrong regardless of a pre season game or notΒ 

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