benhben Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I'm intrigued to see if Yuki and gueye can kick on a bit more after a proper pre season and more time to adapt. Id personally rather see us go all out for a proper winger with pace than an expensive CF. Its hard to Judge the forwards when they had Dolan and Hedges supplying them. Yuki got 11 last season in his first season with a long injury lay off as well.Β A lot of unkowns in the side to start the season. Will it be a pleasant surprise or an absolute shocker?Β Β 3 Quote
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Emerald Isle Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Neal said: Mentioned him loads but surely if we've looked at Miyoshi, surely we'll have inquired about Koko Saito?Β Why would we want another left winger Quote
KentExile Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Neal said: Mentioned him loads but surely if we've looked at Miyoshi, surely we'll have inquired about Koko Saito?Β Mainly plays on the left and is currently injured, return date "unknown" Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, benhben said: I'm intrigued to see if Yuki and gueye can kick on a bit more after a proper pre season and more time to adapt. Id personally rather see us go all out for a proper winger with pace than an expensive CF. Its hard to Judge the forwards when they had Dolan and Hedges supplying them. Yuki got 11 last season in his first season with a long injury lay off as well.Β A lot of unkowns in the side to start the season. Will it be a pleasant surprise or an absolute shocker?Β Β Plus strikers cost well above and beyond our financial limitationsΒ that said a loan in that department should be looked atΒ Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Problem is, you take Kargbo off the left and put him on the right, we are stuck with DeNeve or Hedges on that side.Β Β Wide and up front we are really short of attacking threat. Just don't see where the goals come from.Β Agreed, I think it looks nailed on we will play a version of 3-4-3, what that looks like in terms of which CM drops in to help in build up or where the full backs play is anyones guess at this stage. What's for sure is we don't have any natural touchline hugging wingers barring Kargbo and even then he needs to be able to cut in narrowing the pitch. 1 Quote
KentExile Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: Agreed, I think it looks nailed on we will play a version of 3-4-3, what that looks like in terms of which CM drops in to help in build up or where the full backs play is anyones guess at this stage. What's for sure is we don't have any natural touchline hugging wingers barring Kargbo and even then he needs to be able to cut in narrowing the pitch. it really doesn't .Β If there was any real push to play this system, then extra centre backs would have been needed (Rovers were initially done here until Carters injury) as well as some competition (preferably someone better than) for De Neve as a left wing back as neither Ribeiro or Pickering are suited to that role My response assumes that you mean a 3 at the back, rather than what Rovers have been doing in pre season, and pushing the right back high and wide when Rovers have the ball, whilst the left back, more often than not stays back & slides across Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile Quote
TruRover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago If we had got that Kapaudi lad from Leiga I would actually say our business has been pretty spot on.Β Β I think weβre a top end (in relativity) CB and RW from a decent season.Β Truthfully Carter is our only CB I really rate and heβs always injuredβ¦Β 1 Quote
Torgeir Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, benhben said: I'm intrigued to see if Yuki and gueye can kick on a bit more after a proper pre season and more time to adapt. Id personally rather see us go all out for a proper winger with pace than an expensive CF. Its hard to Judge the forwards when they had Dolan and Hedges supplying them. Yuki got 11 last season in his first season with a long injury lay off as well.Β A lot of unkowns in the side to start the season. Will it be a pleasant surprise or an absolute shocker?Β Β I think we can all agree that Gueye is a pretty poor finisher, at least with his legs. Unplayable on his day but very inconsistent. Ohashi is more consistent but his peak level isn't as high. I think as a pair they're good enough and gives us different options, but we need one more striker I think. 4 Quote
jim mk2 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 13 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: I would say that jim because Travis is the heartbeat of the side. If you asked me if Id rather lose Tronstad or Hedges Id say Hedges. Β Twas a joke Rev! I hope we don't lose either Travis or Tronstad. Hedges does need to be replaced though 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, jim mk2 said: Twas a joke Rev! I hope we don't lose either Travis or Tronstad. Hedges does need to be replaced though It's ok jim. Didnt take it the wrong way and enjoyed the Mandy Rice Davies reference for the teenagers! I genuinely think that out of all the players, with the possible exception of Scott Wharton, Travis is the only one who cares about the Club and has Blackburn Rovers running through him which is why he will be such a loss if sold. This lot don't care about that sort of thing, or success on the pitch though, all they're bothered about is the bottom line in the short term, so I expect him to be sold unfortunately. 1 1 Quote
aletheia Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I may be wrong but I get the sense that people feel the combination of Hyam/Carter is sound. I seem to remember several home games when a simple ball over the top wasn't dealt with and goals ensued. But then my memory is very likely faulty and perhaps there were other factors involved.Β Quote
Torgeir Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, aletheia said: I may be wrong but I get the sense that people feel the combination of Hyam/Carter is sound. I seem to remember several home games when a simple ball over the top wasn't dealt with and goals ensued. But then my memory is very likely faulty and perhaps there were other factors involved.Β Carter never got going and had a poor season overall. Hyam had a very solid season but it's also because we were sat deeper than prior so him and Baatth weren't exposed. A repeat of finishing seventh seems like utopia to me at this stage, but we'll see. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said: Plus, resale value isn't needed on every single signing. Totally agree there Mark 43 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: But where are the 2 senior alternatives for Ohashi and Gueye? Why do we need 2 striker for? One should be enough given we only play 1 strikerΒ 2 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: Agreed, I think it looks nailed on we will play a version of 3-4-3, what that looks like in terms of which CM drops in to help in build up or where the full backs play is anyones guess at this stage. What's for sure is we don't have any natural touchline hugging wingers barring Kargbo and even then he needs to be able to cut in narrowing the pitch. We play 4-2-3-1 formation when defending and when it possession it's goes 3-4-2-1 formation with the right back pushing on and becoming the right winger, Right winger moving inside into a 10 role and left back moving along the 2 centre backs.Β All pre season we played like this 1 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 10 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Again, you are fixated with numbers as if each of those "11" is equal. You are fixated with having loads of players. We can only register 25 playersΒ 2 players per position with extra keeper, centre back, centre midfielder and striker should be more than enough for us.Β why do we need 11 players for 4 attacking positions?Β 10 hours ago, roversfan99 said: For the positions up to the attacking ones, roughly 2 for 1 position is sufficient. In attack, especially if we want to play a high press. Especially now you can name 5 subs from 9, so you are likely going through 7 or 8 a game, and more often than not at least 1 or 2 will be missing through injury. We never want to get to the stage where you dont have enough options on the bench to bring on fresh legs. Bench wise you want 3/4 attacking players, back up right back/ left back/centre back and 1/2 centre midfielders.Β Β 10 hours ago, roversfan99 said: If we get a right winger and a striker that are good enough, fine. I fear that we wont even get 2, just 1. That wouldnt be enough, either bodies or crucially quality. Right winger should be current main priority to sign.Β 10 hours ago, roversfan99 said: For what its worth, we have lost Dolan, Weimann, ACD, Dennis and Woodrow from last season. Obviously 3 of those 5 were crap, 2 are big losses. But even if we did sign 3 more attackers, we would only be back to where we were numerically, and even then at times with injuries we were light on the bench. You posted like we don't already know all this RF99. Do you think we all know who has left?Β Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Why do we need 2 striker for? One should be enough given we only play 1 strikerΒ Goals win games. But also to provide competition for places, cover in case of injuries and suspension,Β and to provide options off the bench. Using that argument we'd be Ok with 3 CB's or 3 Central midfielders. 1 Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Totally agree there Mark Why do we need 2 striker for? One should be enough given we only play 1 strikerΒ We play 4-2-3-1 formation when defending and when it possession it's goes 3-4-2-1 formation with the right back pushing on and becoming the right winger, Right winger moving inside into a 10 role and left back moving along the 2 centre backs.Β All pre season we played like this So like I said 3-4-3 is the base formation when in possession, what you've listed is basically Tuchels' version of 3-4-3 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: We play 4-2-3-1 formation when defending and when it possession it's goes 3-4-2-1 formation with the right back pushing on and becoming the right winger, Right winger moving inside into a 10 role and left back moving along the 2 centre backs.Β All pre season we played like this Lol. I'm impressed you managed to deduce all that from a few kick abouts pre season. 2 Quote
NeilInBristol Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: It's ok jim. Didnt take it the wrong way and enjoyed the Mandy Rice Davies reference for the teenagers! I genuinely think that out of all the players, with the possible exception of Scott Wharton, Travis is the only one who cares about the Club and has Blackburn Rovers running through him which is why he will be such a loss if sold. This lot don't care about that sort of thing, or success on the pitch though, all they're bothered about is the bottom line in the short term, so I expect him to be sold unfortunately. Loving these new emoji reactions!! Great work forum team π 1 3 Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago It's very JDT, starting 4-2-3-1 and going 3-4-3. De Neve and/or Miller are going to have to be very, very fit with bulletproof hamstrings 3 Quote
KentExile Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Lol. I'm impressed you managed to deduce all that from a few kick abouts pre season. It remains to be seen if Rovers have only been playing that way due to who is (and is not) availableΒ or if that will be Ismael's preferred way of setting up the team this season, but if you cannot see that is what has been happening during pre season then you should maybe try watching another sport Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, KentExile said: It remains to be seen if Rovers have been playing that way due to who is (and is not) availableΒ or if that will be Ismael's preferred way of setting up the team this season, but if you cannot see that is what has been happening then you should maybe try watching another sport Ooo bitchy. You just contradicted yourself twice in the space of 4 lines there though. Quote
KentExile Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Ooo bitchy. You just contradicted yourself twice in the space of 4 lines there though. care to point out where? Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I, like many loved periods of JDT ball, however a back 3 of Wharton, Hyam and one of Pickering/Carter/Ribeiro could be up there with the slowest defensive units we've put out, they'd make Nelsen and Ooijer look quick.Β 1 Quote
KentExile Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Lancaster Rover said: I, like many loved periods of JDT ball, however a back 3 of Wharton, Hyam and one of Pickering/Carter/Ribeiro could be up there with the slowest defensive units we've put out, they'd make Nelsen and Ooijer look quick.Β McLoughlin no faster than those mentioned either Β Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, KentExile said: McLoughlin no faster than those mentioned either Β True, I'd omitted him on the basis I've not seen that much of him other than against our forwards which you don't have to be particularly quick to marshall 1 Quote
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