rob_of_the_rovers Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Can't help but feel that might be it apart from loans now 1 Quote
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Old Codger Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Just now, Exiled_Rover said: I think it's a stretch to say we're down Woodrow and Dennis. They contributed the square root of fuck all - which admittedly was part of the problem. Agreed. Dennis was away with the fairies, and cost us goals with his careless approach. Woodrow was meh, but you could see he'd been a footballer at some point. But the underlying point is well made - a lack of strength in depth has cost Rovers dearly in each of the past 4 or 5 campaigns, with the post-December dip in form robbing us of any decent chance of progressing upwards. We somehow need to get to a place where every position has back-up, and they can all fit into the manager's preferred style and tactics. Ain't happening, is it? But well done VI and the boys on delivering a decent performance today against a much higher quality (on paper) set of players. Maybe VI is an alchemist, and Rudy is visionary and incisive. Not holding my breath on either count, tbh. 1 Quote
B16Rover Posted July 19 Posted July 19 On the winger front, Grady Diangana is looking for a club I believe. As is Duncan Watmore. Both better than Hedges going forward Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 19 Posted July 19 8 minutes ago, B16Rover said: On the winger front, Grady Diangana is looking for a club I believe. As is Duncan Watmore. Both better than Hedges going forward Diangana wage demands likely will be an issue watmore meh would t be for me personally Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 19 Posted July 19 30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:  He probably also wants his right winger to offer some semblance of attacking threat. I'm not doing another debate over Hedges with yourself and Others for the million time. 30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Luton fans would be queueing up to drive Chong here. A Hedges-esque season but you seem to know exactly what Ismael wants. It's was just suggestion of mine. It's very clear how Ismael wants us to play formation wise and style of play with the ball and without. So I find your comment abit weird unless you disagree that's how we want to play  Quote
Forever Blue Posted July 19 Posted July 19 22 minutes ago, rob_of_the_rovers said: Can't help but feel that might be it apart from loans now I very much doubt it. 2 Quote
Forever Blue Posted July 19 Posted July 19 20 minutes ago, B16Rover said: On the winger front, Grady Diangana is looking for a club I believe. As is Duncan Watmore. Both better than Hedges going forward What happened to that winger you said was ‘on route’?? Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: I'm not doing another debate over Hedges with yourself and Others for the million time. It's was just suggestion of mine. It's very clear how Ismael wants us to play formation wise and style of play with the ball and without. So I find your comment abit weird unless you disagree that's how we want to play  I get that the right wide player tucks in, but the setup doesnt specifically need a right winger who offers nothing in attack to work. It would surely work better if an attacker from that position could offer a threat that would really give defences problems knowing that theres an attacking right back to deal with at the same time. Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Today was only a friendly and I dont think it can be underestimated that we still have plenty of work to do in the transfer market, even before considering potentially replacing Brittain, Travis and Tronstad. We have nowhere near enough quality or quantity in attack. Especially if we are playing a high press and with a manager that is reknown for regular, multiple subs, we need 9 or 10 options along that front line to try and always have 3 or 4 on the bench at any one time, factoring in injuries. Its not a silly number, 5 have gone out so its not like we would suddenly be swelling the squad. We obviously need a right winger but we also need a number 10 and a striker who can compete with Ohashi, when he isnt on the pitch then Gueye forces a total change of style. We also obviously need another right footed centre back. Tavares and Alebiosu in particular feel like options more to be cover and will hopefully give us stronger options in the squad rather than last season when Forshaw/Buckley or JRC/Carter at right back really caused a huge dip. 1 Quote
Ricceh Posted July 19 Posted July 19 17 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: What happened to that winger you said was ‘on route’?? Google maps isn't what it used to be Quote
MarkBRFC Posted July 19 Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Forever Blue said: Nixon has a Rovers story tomorrow When asked if it was about an incoming or a new target, he replied with "not really". Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 19 Posted July 19 36 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Today was only a friendly and I dont think it can be underestimated that we still have plenty of work to do in the transfer market, even before considering potentially replacing Brittain, Travis and Tronstad. We have nowhere near enough quality or quantity in attack. Especially if we are playing a high press and with a manager that is reknown for regular, multiple subs, we need 9 or 10 options along that front line to try and always have 3 or 4 on the bench at any one time, factoring in injuries. Its not a silly number, 5 have gone out so its not like we would suddenly be swelling the squad. We obviously need a right winger but we also need a number 10 and a striker who can compete with Ohashi, when he isnt on the pitch then Gueye forces a total change of style. We also obviously need another right footed centre back. Tavares and Alebiosu in particular feel like options more to be cover and will hopefully give us stronger options in the squad rather than last season when Forshaw/Buckley or JRC/Carter at right back really caused a huge dip. Realistically we aren’t getting all of that Val has pretty much said cb transfer now back on the table again right winger always been on the cards and a cm anything beyond that now will be a bonus or from the loan market which he isn’t a fan of Quote
Cherry Blue Posted July 19 Posted July 19 5 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: When asked if it was about an incoming or a new target, he replied with "not really". Maybe a CEO story?? Quote
unleaded Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Already up … Tyjon wanted by both England & Poland … Swiss lad being worked on with his club for a Pay as you play deal … must really like him …     5 Quote
callumrovers Posted July 19 Posted July 19 1 minute ago, unleaded said: Already up … Tyjon wanted by both England & Poland … Swiss lad being worked on with his club for a Pay as you play deal … must really like him …     Swiss lad….? Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted July 19 Posted July 19 1 minute ago, callumrovers said: Swiss lad….? The player thst failed his medical recently I presume. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 12 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Realistically we aren’t getting all of that Val has pretty much said cb transfer now back on the table again right winger always been on the cards and a cm anything beyond that now will be a bonus or from the loan market which he isn’t a fan of Then we would be leaving ourselves massively short along the front line. We need attacking players more than another central midfielder. Gestede mentioned a right winger to replace ACD when he was unsure that Dolan was going and some power up front to compete with Ohashi and Gueye. That was before Weimann left unexpectedly too. So he said 2 before Dolan and in particular Weimann left. So I dont think 3 is unreasonable. Gestede and Ismael also said 6 or 7 before Weimann, Batth and Dolan had decided to go, and Ismael said the other day that this window will be more of an overhaul than was expected. So 3 attackers and a defender taking us to 8 again doesnt seem unrealistic. Quote
B16Rover Posted July 19 Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Forever Blue said: What happened to that winger you said was ‘on route’?? I said en route im not a heathen Arguing the toss about u21s, not sure Gilsenan set the route to the first team alight Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Pay as you play? Seems a bit fanciful. Pay his club when he plays, or pay him when he plays? Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 19 Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Then we would be leaving ourselves massively short along the front line. We need attacking players more than another central midfielder. Gestede mentioned a right winger to replace ACD when he was unsure that Dolan was going and some power up front to compete with Ohashi and Gueye. That was before Weimann left unexpectedly too. So he said 2 before Dolan and in particular Weimann left. So I dont think 3 is unreasonable. Gestede and Ismael also said 6 or 7 before Weimann, Batth and Dolan had decided to go, and Ismael said the other day that this window will be more of an overhaul than was expected. So 3 attackers and a defender taking us to 8 again doesnt seem unrealistic. Agree with the above but I think the carter injury and pending exit of Brittain has probably changed that (based on history in the market) hope I’m wrong though bit I can see a cb cm and rw anything beyond that will be a bonus tyjon going to be a part of the first team def need more just note sure we will get it in the summer window Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Agree with the above but I think the carter injury and pending exit of Brittain has probably changed that (based on history in the market) hope I’m wrong though bit I can see a cb cm and rw anything beyond that will be a bonus tyjon going to be a part of the first team def need more just note sure we will get it in the summer window I think the 3 attacking players are more important certainly than central midfield. Number wise though, 6/7 turning to 8/9 hopefully is what we will get baring in mind 2 or 3 extra departures. And of course more if any one else important leaves. Quote
Forever Blue Posted July 19 Posted July 19 9 minutes ago, B16Rover said: I said en route im not a heathen Arguing the toss about u21s, not sure Gilsenan set the route to the first team alight You were right to correct me, ‘on route’  is an abomination.  Gilsenan was the most hyped footballer we’ve ever had. I think he’s found his level at Grimsby. 1 Quote
B16Rover Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Despite Cardiff and Wrexham interest he's obviously not good enough, but a 6ft 6 centre back busting step overs like the below would be a novelty worth taking up for the U21s if nothing else https://www.instagram.com/p/DL5BivgNI_5/?img_index=1&igsh=eGkwbDBnemNjYjhy Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted July 19 Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I think the 3 attacking players are more important certainly than central midfield. Number wise though, 6/7 turning to 8/9 hopefully is what we will get baring in mind 2 or 3 extra departures. And of course more if any one else important leaves. If it is baradji and we take the chance and he is fit n ready he plays anywhere across the middle can play cm can play off the left and right so would be more useful than most given his versatility Quote
Forever Blue Posted July 19 Posted July 19 17 minutes ago, callumrovers said: Swiss lad….? Johann Vogel. Quote
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