Boycott Or Not?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

9 minutes ago, speedies gonna get ya. said:

I am led to believe that an approach was made to buy Rovers last year. Pasha said not for sale. It didn't go any further. He is the blocker keeping his cushy number with no scrutiny. That is why he actively prevents direct communication with the Owners. 

We need to shift him. Financially is the only way to do it. 

Selling the club for the Chicken Chokers equals opening Pandora’s box.

[wilsdenrover]

15 minutes ago, speedies gonna get ya. said:

I am led to believe that an approach was made to buy Rovers last year. Pasha said not for sale. It didn't go any further. He is the blocker keeping his cushy number with no scrutiny. That is why he actively prevents direct communication with the Owners. 

We need to shift him. Financially is the only way to do it. 

Has anyone tried writing an old fashioned letter directly to the owners?

[superniko]

1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said:

Has anyone tried writing an old fashioned letter directly to the owners?

Glenn has his WhatsApp I think! 

[wilsdenrover]

4 minutes ago, superniko said:

Glenn has his WhatsApp I think! 

I was thinking pen and paper, proper old school 😄

[StHelensRover]

4 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I was thinking pen and paper, proper old school 😄

They're arrogant, spoiled, billionaire brats who inherited Daddy's business empire and haven't a clue.

There's zero chance a letter gets past their secretary's secretary without going straight in the bin. They wouldn't lower themselves to interacting with people like us. 

 

[speedies gonna get ya.]

Topple Pasha by him missing his financial targets. That is part of the strategy.

[M_B]

2 hours ago, speedies gonna get ya. said:

I am led to believe that an approach was made to buy Rovers last year. Pasha said not for sale. It didn't go any further. He is the blocker keeping his cushy number with no scrutiny. That is why he actively prevents direct communication with the Owners. 

We need to shift him. Financially is the only way to do it. 

If the approach is true, then either they weren't serious about buying, or Venkys weren't for selling. 

[Dreams of 1995]

5 minutes ago, M_B said:

If the approach is true, then either they weren't serious about buying, or Venkys weren't for selling. 

Fantastic bit of detective work there M_B if I do say so myself. The art of deduction at its simplest

Edited 14 hours ago by Dreams of 1995

[M_B]

12 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Fantastic bit of detective work there M_B if I do say so myself. The art of deduction at its simplest

It isn't difficult to work out. 

[RevidgeBlue]

27 minutes ago, M_B said:

If the approach is true, then either they weren't serious about buying, or Venkys weren't for selling. 

Or perhaps, exactly like the poster said, Pasha blocked the approach.

 

[M_B]

11 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Or perhaps, exactly like the poster said, Pasha blocked the approach.

 

Not feasible, in my opinion 

Edited 14 hours ago by M_B

[Upside Down]

6 minutes ago, M_B said:

Not feasible, in my opinion 

On what do you base this opinion?

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

On what do you base this opinion?

Pure guesswork.

[RevidgeBlue]

12 minutes ago, M_B said:

Not feasible, in my opinion 

You've no more idea than I have, (none) but I'm not sure why you find it that hard to believe, who'd want to keep him on if the Club was taken over?

[lraC]

3 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Selling the club for the Chicken Chokers equals opening Pandora’s box.

Lots still don’t get this.

The takeover was so corrupt that they simply dare not allow a deep dive into the accounts. It’s the only thing that makes any sense.

[Tomphil2]

Difference is with the North End scenario is simple they made it known quite a while ago that they were open to selling or taking on investment from the right people.

That has never happened here and even if someone had serious interest they'd have to get a direct line into one of the head Rao's otherwise it doesn't get past the various self interested buffer zones.

Even then they might get told don't even approach us without 100 million on the table.

By the end of this decade we'll be one of the smallest clubs in Lancashire, that should please the 'natural level' brigade.

[M_B]

14 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You've no more idea than I have, (none) but I'm not sure why you find it that hard to believe, who'd want to keep him on if the Club was taken over?

If you had the millions needed to buy a football club, you would more than likely be talking directly to the owners themselves. 

If you were serious about buying it, and had the necessary clout, you would not be lied to by one man and it not get back to the owners. 

Obviously I don't know, but common sense tells me that the chances of a serious buyer being told no by Pasha without the owners' knowledge, and then the owners subsequently not finding out when someone on here supposedly knows  is fairly remote. 

[RevidgeBlue]

19 minutes ago, lraC said:

Lots still don’t get this.

The takeover was so corrupt that they simply dare not allow a deep dive into the accounts. It’s the only thing that makes any sense.

I dont buy that at all.

Rightly or wrongly the takeover was passed at the relevant time 15-16 years ago and as long as any potential purchasers are legitimate and get approved by the Authorities, what concern is it of theirs?

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, M_B said:

If you had the millions needed to buy a football club, you would more than likely be talking directly to the owners themselves. 

If you were serious about buying it, and had the necessary clout, you would not be lied to by one man and it not get back to the owners. 

Obviously I don't know, but common sense tells me that the chances of a serious buyer being told no by Pasha without the owners' knowledge, and then the owners subsequently not finding out when someone on here supposedly knows  is fairly remote. 

Fair points but to all intents and purposes he is the COO of the Company so I dont know what else you're supposed to do if he tells you it's not for sale or the offer is unacceptable.

[M_B]

25 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Fair points but to all intents and purposes he is the COO of the Company so I dont know what else you're supposed to do if he tells you it's not for sale or the offer is unacceptable.

It would be more feasible that they have said it simply isn't for sale and he is relaying the message. 

Or, like you say, if Venkys have left it to him to vet any approach.

But if they are looking to sell and a serious approach was made, it's my opinion it would be above Pasha. 

Edited 12 hours ago by M_B

[lraC]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I dont buy that at all.

Rightly or wrongly the takeover was passed at the relevant time 15-16 years ago and as long as any potential purchasers are legitimate and get approved by the Authorities, what concern is it of theirs?

It’s no concern of any purchaser, granted, but if what I suspect, is money laundering amongst other corrupt goings on, comes to light, then Thats certainly a concern of this country’s law makers. 

[wilsdenrover]

7 hours ago, lraC said:

It’s no concern of any purchaser, granted, but if what I suspect, is money laundering amongst other corrupt goings on, comes to light, then Thats certainly a concern of this country’s law makers. 

Even if money laundering had taken place I’m not sure selling the club would make this more likely to come to light. 

[ageoftherover]

The other possibility is Pasha has considerably more control than we think over what happens here, and Venkies have considerably less.

[JHRover]

 

The Hemmings family 'unwillingly' inherited PNE from Trevor after he died. They've been willing to stump up the shortfall each year in the time since he died as custodians of the club and to allow them to remain competitive in the Championship, but probably haven't got the clout or interest to do it long term or make a big difference by Championship standards. A bit like the Walker trust - left with something they didn't really want but sensible enough to keep it ticking over.

Despite that they have done things that our wonderful benevolent billionaires haven't such as looking after their stadium, not gutting the squad every window, not forcing out their managers every February, offering reasonable ticket prices etc. and all for lower annual losses then we manage, ain't it amazing how they do that?

But they want rid if they can find someone so have made it known they are available and waited for serious interest to come along. That may or may not have happened with this American/Saudi bloke, or they may need to wait longer, but they will run the club properly in the interim.

Unsurprisingly there is interest out there including from overseas in 'small' loss making Championship football clubs, just as those of us with any sense knew, which ought to put a stop to the 'who would buy us?' nonsense.

A bit like the foreign consortium exploring buying Colchester United. 

The reason there is no public information about interest in Rovers is that nobody can get past first base, because we have a group of reclusive idiots who for some unfathomable reason seem content to keep hold of the club and run it into the ground whilst it costs them upwards of £10 million a year. You could put Bill Gates and Elon Musk together on a stage outside the Blackburn End with a loudspeaker declaring their wish to buy Rovers for £1 billion and it probably wouldn't make a shred of difference - because those creatures in Pune wouldn't hear it and even if one of them did they wouldn't deal with it in a professional or timely manner. 

The latest instalment of their reign of terror is going to be to condemn us to a prolonged spell in the third or fourth division, which of course will wipe another significant amount off their 'investment' whilst ensuring less interest from elsewhere in buying it, should they ever decide to sell. 

[Mashed Potatoes]

35 minutes ago, JHRover said:

 

The Hemmings family 'unwillingly' inherited PNE from Trevor after he died. They've been willing to stump up the shortfall each year in the time since he died as custodians of the club and to allow them to remain competitive in the Championship, but probably haven't got the clout or interest to do it long term or make a big difference by Championship standards. A bit like the Walker trust - left with something they didn't really want but sensible enough to keep it ticking over.

Despite that they have done things that our wonderful benevolent billionaires haven't such as looking after their stadium, not gutting the squad every window, not forcing out their managers every February, offering reasonable ticket prices etc. and all for lower annual losses then we manage, ain't it amazing how they do that?

But they want rid if they can find someone so have made it known they are available and waited for serious interest to come along. That may or may not have happened with this American/Saudi bloke, or they may need to wait longer, but they will run the club properly in the interim.

Unsurprisingly there is interest out there including from overseas in 'small' loss making Championship football clubs, just as those of us with any sense knew, which ought to put a stop to the 'who would buy us?' nonsense.

A bit like the foreign consortium exploring buying Colchester United. 

The reason there is no public information about interest in Rovers is that nobody can get past first base, because we have a group of reclusive idiots who for some unfathomable reason seem content to keep hold of the club and run it into the ground whilst it costs them upwards of £10 million a year. You could put Bill Gates and Elon Musk together on a stage outside the Blackburn End with a loudspeaker declaring their wish to buy Rovers for £1 billion and it probably wouldn't make a shred of difference - because those creatures in Pune wouldn't hear it and even if one of them did they wouldn't deal with it in a professional or timely manner. 

The latest instalment of their reign of terror is going to be to condemn us to a prolonged spell in the third or fourth division, which of course will wipe another significant amount off their 'investment' whilst ensuring less interest from elsewhere in buying it, should they ever decide to sell. 

Preston don't have an Under 21 team so that would partially explain lower operating losses. Additionally they are part of the Hemmings family business group so presumably can make use of group employees for matters like IT,HR ,Finance and legal. Also being part of the Hemmings group the losses in the football club can be offset for tax purposes against profits of their other businesses.