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General thoughts.

 

Not sure where we go from here. Squad has so many weaknesses and very few strengths. Not much to build on. The squad needs dismantling and rebuilding. Without that we’ll go backwards. It’s a big job. We simply have to become much harder to beat, we have such a soft centre it’s untrue. Don’t like saying it, but we need to start looking at how Burnley got out of this league. It was by being very professional, by having solid pro’s. By having a manager who was consistent with his players and his tactics. Don’t forget, if you don’t go forwards you’ll go backwards - that IMO (again) is where we are at.

Is Mowbray the man to bring that mindset to the club? I don’t think so. I see very little of what’s needed to be a force in this league.

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1 hour ago, Waggy76 said:

Why daft ,?? Been a very good player for Blackburn Rovers has Charlie Mulgrew ..

His stats this year have been horrendous, we've only won about 10% of the games he has played in, ultimately resulting in him being dropped for the last run of games. He gets beaten frequently in the air and on the turn. He's a huge liability sadly and the number one culprit in our horrendous form in February and March until he was dropped in April.

He's finished I think. Gone from first name on the team sheet to barely a squad player. I don't take any pleasure in saying it, and thank him for his service, but he has no future at the level I would say.

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36 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

I'd still like us to sign Alan Judge. He's the kind of creative Att Mid we could do with. 

 

 

Third time lucky! But in all seriousness why would we focus on signing a player like him when we have Dack, Rothwell, Armstrong, Chapman, Butterworth all vying for attacking midfield roles? Our need is much greater in other areas. With limited resources we need to focus on defence and strikers.

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36 minutes ago, den said:

General thoughts.

 

Not sure where we go from here. Squad has so many weaknesses and very few strengths. Not much to build on. The squad needs dismantling and rebuilding. Without that we’ll go backwards. It’s a big job. We simply have to become much harder to beat, we have such a soft centre it’s untrue. Don’t like saying it, but we need to start looking at how Burnley got out of this league. It was by being very professional, by having solid pro’s. By having a manager who was consistent with his players and his tactics. Don’t forget, if you don’t go forwards you’ll go backwards - that IMO (again) is where we are at.

Is Mowbray the man to bring that mindset to the club? I don’t think so. I see very little of what’s needed to be a force in this league.

I think you're being a tad harsh. We have a lot of good young attacking quality that other teams in this league will be jealous of. We desperately need some solid defenders and strikers but the nucleus of an exciting squad is there.

 

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59 minutes ago, den said:

General thoughts.

 

Not sure where we go from here. Squad has so many weaknesses and very few strengths. Not much to build on. The squad needs dismantling and rebuilding. Without that we’ll go backwards. It’s a big job. We simply have to become much harder to beat, we have such a soft centre it’s untrue. Don’t like saying it, but we need to start looking at how Burnley got out of this league. It was by being very professional, by having solid pro’s. By having a manager who was consistent with his players and his tactics. Don’t forget, if you don’t go forwards you’ll go backwards - that IMO (again) is where we are at.

Is Mowbray the man to bring that mindset to the club? I don’t think so. I see very little of what’s needed to be a force in this league.

If we are to be promoted I agree that TM will have to drastically change his methods and approach. I don't know whether he can but I fear the alternatives, given Venkys past record.

Its a real dilemma.

However Venkys make the decisions and they seem to rate him highly so I bet he will remain manager for sometime yet whether he wakes up or not.

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1 hour ago, den said:

General thoughts.

 

Not sure where we go from here. Squad has so many weaknesses and very few strengths. Not much to build on. The squad needs dismantling and rebuilding. Without that we’ll go backwards. It’s a big job. We simply have to become much harder to beat, we have such a soft centre it’s untrue. Don’t like saying it, but we need to start looking at how Burnley got out of this league. It was by being very professional, by having solid pro’s. By having a manager who was consistent with his players and his tactics. Don’t forget, if you don’t go forwards you’ll go backwards - that IMO (again) is where we are at.

Is Mowbray the man to bring that mindset to the club? I don’t think so. I see very little of what’s needed to be a force in this league.

I think that's a bit harsh, got some good young players coming through, Rothwell, Dack and Lenihan are 3 decent players for us, I also think the same for Arma. There's a lot of crap, no arguments there but there some reason for optimism. 

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55 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Third time lucky! But in all seriousness why would we focus on signing a player like him when we have Dack, Rothwell, Armstrong, Chapman, Butterworth all vying for attacking midfield roles? Our need is much greater in other areas. With limited resources we need to focus on defence and strikers.

Rothwell AA and Chapman can play wide. None of those are consistently good. We need better than AA and Mogga has never fancied Chapman as a starter. I'd be surprised if he doesn't sign another wide player this summer after missing out on Freeman and Celina last summer. 

 

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Next season I would like to see

New 

Nyambe Lenihan New New

Travis New

New Dack Rothwell 

New

Raya Williams Bell NewCB NewRB Davenport Evans NewCM Armstrong Chapman NewCAM Graham Brereton 

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2 hours ago, den said:

Not sure where we go from here. Squad has so many weaknesses and very few strengths. Not much to build on. The squad needs dismantling and rebuilding.

Reading some of the posts on here you'd think we had Liverpool's forward line. We certainly have some potential but we don't have anywhere near the quality of Norwich, Villa, Derby etc. Dack and Graham are proven quality at this level, none of the rest are. Rothwell has the most potential but he will need a full season in the team to see if he can provide goals and assists on a weekly basis. I think Chapman will continue to be an impact player and that AA has about 1 really good game in 5 and lots of very average ones in between. BB is not proven. 

The midfield has Evans, EB, Davenport and Travis. Evans and Bennett are average Championship players and the other two have the potential to be quality but are nowhere near proven over a season. They are both young and their form will dip as it mostly always does with young lads. 

At the back we are very average. Lenihan is quality IMO, the rest go from bad to mediocre.

The GK's simply aren't good enough.

So, agree to some extent with your post but there are SOME quality players to build a team around, just not many. The spine needs strengthening massively and we probably lack at least one quality creative midfielder and a top quality striker to replace the ageing Graham. 

Mowbray has stressed the need to bring in quality 1st teamers so he probably mostly agrees with you. He has also stressed the need to bring in experienced players to go with the young lads of which there are many. There aren't many in their prime in that squad, they are mostly all young or the wrong side of 30. 

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On 03/05/2019 at 14:42, 47er said:

Why?

 

I mean, the lads get promoted and then you just don't given them an opportunity to prove themselves? Why would you not do that? 

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The one’s he thinks can step up, of course, get games at a higher level.

The one’s that aren’t good enough are moved on. Fairly obvious Smallwood was a lower league battler, nowt wrong with that, he did a good job in League 1, but you must be ruthless, ‘deserve’ doesn’t come into it.

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8 hours ago, ChrisPriceBaldSpot said:

Next season I would like to see

New 

Nyambe Lenihan New New

Travis New

New Dack Rothwell 

New

Raya Williams Bell NewCB NewRB Davenport Evans NewCM Armstrong Chapman NewCAM Graham Brereton 

There's absolutely no way we will be able to sign 10 players better than we have. If we get 4 we will have had a very good window.

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9 hours ago, Neal said:

I think that's a bit harsh,

Well maybe, but it possibly depends on what we want. I’m talking about having a squad good enough for promotion and I think we’re a long way from that. 

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10 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

Third time lucky! But in all seriousness why would we focus on signing a player like him when we have Dack, Rothwell, Armstrong, Chapman, Butterworth all vying for attacking midfield roles? Our need is much greater in other areas. With limited resources we need to focus on defence and strikers.

Further to my earlier post....

Crosses per game - 16  (joint 2nd lowest in the league). Sheff Utd put in the most crosses with 25 per game (Billy Sharpe is delighted with that stat - easy to score tap-ins when the ball is fizzing across the 6 yard box regularly).

Not only do we not put many crosses in, when we do they are very, very poor. Armstrong can't cross it, Rothwell always runs inside, Chapman will be lucky to start - so it's left to our full backs - none of whom can cross it. We have lots of central attacking midfielders but none that are natural out wide ( apart from Chapman who will never start). I think we are crying out for an Alan Judge-type, someone who can deliver quality into the box. Beside Conway (who is probably off) there is no-one in the team who can do it. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, nathan_rovers1 said:

I mean, the lads get promoted and then you just don't given them an opportunity to prove themselves? Why would you not do that? 

I don't mind "giving them an opportunity". The problem is that the 'opportunity" lasted the whole season or most of it.

And it came at the expense of younger players who proved they could do better.

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Just now, 47er said:

I don't mind "giving them an opportunity". The problem is that the 'opportunity" lasted the whole season or most of it.

And it came at the expense of younger players who proved they could do better.

Really? The younger players showed they could do better? I'll give you Rothwell and Travis, the rest weren't given enough time to prove or disprove the second statement

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11 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

Third time lucky! But in all seriousness why would we focus on signing a player like him when we have Dack, Rothwell, Armstrong, Chapman, Butterworth all vying for attacking midfield roles? Our need is much greater in other areas. With limited resources we need to focus on defence and strikers.

Judge had a really badly broken leg when he was at Brentford. Just prior to the bigger clubs moving in on him. As I recall he was out for over a year. That's a bad injury which ever way you look at it. He never got back into contention at Brentford afterwards and they moved him on to Ipswich. I'd suggest if he isn't seen as being good enough at Brentford he isn't good enough for a Rovers team looking to get into the play offs. It's a shame really because I liked him when he was with us, reminded me a lot of Johnny Price out on that right wing.

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Just now, dingles staying down 4ever said:

Really? The younger players showed they could do better? I'll give you Rothwell and Travis, the rest weren't given enough time to prove or disprove the second statement

Yes really! They are the ones I was thinking of! Thanks. Both became regulars too late.

But Macgloire, Chapman ,Nyambe, Davenport and Buckley could have been given more chances and they certainly didn't have time to prove much.

Nyambe is a bit different, he had an extensive run early on but latterly hasn't featured. 

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13 minutes ago, den said:

Well maybe, but it possibly depends on what we want. I’m talking about having a squad good enough for promotion and I think we’re a long way from that. 

I can probably see where you are coming from but then again we have taken a lot of points from teams in and around the top 6 and then failed to turn up against teams like Rotherham. We need more consistency in the defensive areas to push us up there. 

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Just now, Neal said:

I can probably see where you are coming from but then again we have taken a lot of points from teams in and around the top 6 and then failed to turn up against teams like Rotherham. We need more consistency in the defensive areas to push us up there. 

We also need to stop changing the team every week and we need everyone playing in their best positions

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Just now, 47er said:

Yes really! They are the ones I was thinking of! Thanks. Both became regulars too late.

But Macgloire, Chapman ,Nyambe, Davenport and Buckley could have been given more chances and they certainly didn't have time to prove much.

Nyambe is a bit different, he had an extensive run early on but latterly hasn't featured. 

Nyambe can't be classed as a young anymore he has been in and out of the first team for many a season.

Rothwell was a first teamer at another club so I wouldn't say he was one of the inexperienced players.

The others gave glimpses but only that. It does not prove anything. We've had many a young player do this but never mount to much. time will tell.

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Just now, dingles staying down 4ever said:

Nyambe can't be classed as a young anymore he has been in and out of the first team for many a season.

Rothwell was a first teamer at another club so I wouldn't say he was one of the inexperienced players.

The others gave glimpses but only that. It does not prove anything. We've had many a young player do this but never mount to much. time will tell.

Can't be classed as young? The lad is 21.

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Just now, dingles staying down 4ever said:

Young as in terms of first team experience.

He should play ahead if bennet no matter how old he is. That sort of stuff needs to change. Square pegs round holes to keep his mates happy.

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