The project changing can't have helped can it? Or are you saying that wouldn't affect on-field matters, morale, generally pissing off some players who were settled and thought we were building a promotion chasing squad? Luton didn't have that, nor Sunderland, nor any of the teams in the play offs or promoted. We finished 7th under one bloke but didn't under his predecessor who had much more time and money. I don't know how that is undermining Mowbray's appointment at the time. It's just what happened. Good for them. No one is making it out to be a high achievement, but it's the highest we've had so far in this league. You'd hope that with the same backing that other manager's under the V's have had, it could have turned out better. Luton had been building for a long time and had two good strikers to get them promoted. They could have sold Adebayo but kept hold of him. Waggott wouldn't have done that. You like to exaggerate don't you. God/martyr. 7th is an achievement. Acceptance and celebration of absolute mediocrity. Looking forward to the next one, if your mind hasn't blown again.

I don't know who brought up Mowbray, but it's batshit insane to praise the fella whilst giving the current fella some stick. If you aren't happy with JDT, it must follow that Mowbray was a smidge disappointing?

What has January got to do with it? The project changed post-transfer window. Let's stick with solid facts though, he finished 7th, which is higher than the guy you were praising.

It blows my mind that you're praising a bloke who failed to get us in the play offs with plenty of money and time, but yet a bloke who has been here for a season and a 1/2 and got us to our highest placed finish on comparably no budget - then had the budget cut even further - lost many key players - with owners/executives interfering left and right... And I quote. "Hasn't done a great job." And then qualify it by saying people see him as a deity. Of course he hasn't done a great job, who would? But you can't take away the fact he did better in one Championship season than Mowbray did in 3. And I can only imagine that if they hadn't screwed up the O'Brien deal he'd have got us into the play offs.

Let's not forget the year before that, 15th. Last season we lost a bunch of important members of that squad in 8th place, unreplaced. And this season we lost a key member of that 7th place finish, unreplaced. Along with bags of experience in the squad, unreplaced. And just lost another one, unreplaced. When you look at the full story it's unsurprising we've fallen off a cliff.

It didn't help that morale was rocked amongst the players as some of them already knew they were on their way, and that the project had changed, well before it was reported. As I said earlier, the wheels are always going to fall off a club in turmoil.

Waggot slowing the deal down wouldn't surprise me. I believe he was responsible for our drop in form last season, being as leaky as an old fat man with incontinence, when he should have been shielding the squad when we had a chance of the play offs. And of course the buck stops with him over O'Brien which would have certainly got us at least an extra point. A complete and utter bastard.

There's going to be fireworks when the penny drops and JDT isn't around. It'll be the players next up in the blame game, who as we know are a bit sensitive.

Fucking mental isn't it. Love Mowbray who did the square root of fuck all, shit on the bloke who took us to within a whisker of the play offs without even having a quarter of what Mowbray had in time or budget.

That blows my mind.

I agree with most of this, but the players are just pawns. I wouldn't blame them, they are being used by a sneaky chancer. A bit soft sure, but we already knew that with the way they crumble after conceding a goal, have a player go off injured or haven't scored within the first fifteen minutes.

If Steve wants this to go away, it'll never go away.

Well said.

I'm not quite sure how that meeting will facilitate that. It wasn't even organised to facilitate that. Just deflection leading to more division. It certainly won't make the head coach's (whoever that may be) job any easier or the players any better.

I'd agree with that but he looks like a man who'd enjoy it.

A bungling CEO. Who oversaw a second January transfer window in which his staff got it spectacularly wrong. The same man who heard chants at the weekend of "Waggott out". Brings in senior players to tell the fans, to their faces, to not create a toxic atmosphere. I'd say that's pretty cynical and shameless all things considered.

I hope someone pointed the finger at Waggott and said you're a big part of the problem. Why bring in a head coach and DOF with the orders of champagne football when you knew full well that we were going to have to tighten our belts?

It's shameless considering the club is again, the laughing stock of football because of his organisation. No resignation, just hold a bullshit meeting to create a thinly veiled jab at the people who pay and actually care about the club.

A CEO of a football club using the players as meat shields. And the fans being told it's them that need to step up 😄 Get that awful cretin out of our club.

Whoever said that will be sacked next week if Mrs Desai hears about it. That's the Rao's orders, play attractive football and develop players. That's why the coward with the beard who knew that we were having the budget massively reduced, hasn't told the owners that's what we need to do. So you've got a coach who has been brought in at cross purposes, and a CEO who doesn't want to upset the apple cart with his paymasters.

The dressing room were pissed off with the higher ups, not the coaches. Whether that's changed I don't know. That meeting seemed cynical to me. I just hope the players realised the anger is towards the reckless and stubborn owners.

Late Feb, so unless they recruit from within I reckon it'll be a repeat.

I doubt he'd ever consider it after the way they messed him around in 2016.

We'd be bouncing between L2 and none league, Myles Anderson would be a Rovers veteran still playing CB on PL wages. Jerome Anderson would be CEO, Kean DOF.