I think what everyone is trying to point out is that they have completely different attributes, which make them different types of player. What you're almost arguing is that they're similar in terms of their form/output, which is fair enough. That doesn't make them the same type of player though. It's like saying an apple and a pear are the same as you're as likely to choke on the pips of either.

This falls into the must win category for me. If we have any hope of reaching the play offs, we need to be beating teams like Charlton. When we play the sides higher than us in the table, we want them to be looking over their shoulders and feeling the pressure.

We wouldn't sign him as 2nd choice, so I'm leaning more towards 'No'. I've voted 'Maybe' because he deserves to be judged across the whole season. He's still young for a keeper and developing. He's been a bit of a mixed bag so far.

They've got a decent striker in Matt Godden. He's been scoring some important goals for them. Funnily enough, they signed him from Peterborough.

I switched on for the 2nd half and thought Millwall were very positive. They were pushed back quite a lot as Fulham were trying to get a winner but Rowett made a couple of attacking subs and was pushing for a winner too. Apart from Fulham hitting the bar in stoppage time at the end, the standout chance was Millwall's through Tom Bradshaw, who should've done a lot better when he was put through.

I think we've got to give him until the end of the season before judging him. Bit of a shaky start but he's started to look the real deal more recently. Some big saves and he's quite composed even under the heavy press when we're trying to play it out from the back. I couldn't say either way at the moment.

Chapman has as well.

Nice one for sharing the info.

Might as well rule that out now then. Next.

Looked like he had a bit of pace from his YouTube highlights. If anything he looks like he's lost a yard of pace since he signed.

Yeah, Keith Andrews was nowhere near useless. He wasn't great but he automatically became a scapegoat for a lot of fans.

Brereton

Frustrating. Obviously wasn't one of our top targets otherwise we would've had some movement before the final day of the window.

I've just spoken to a few mates that are Toon fans and they think he's OK. Apparently works hard and looks quick, but actually isn't. Didn't seem like a class above for them in Championship as they'd have expected, but he'd do OK.

He was only on loan at Hull. We actually signed him from United after an initial loan spell.

I don't think anyone is insinuating that. I very much doubt that any of it would be made available today should it go through. As you say, it's great for FFP though.

At least it's brought us all together for a little while!

I'm inclined to agree with you on that. But you've got to think that he has something if Brighton are signing him for £4million. If he was a left back, then fair enough. But he's not. Let's move on to the next one, preferably in a position we need filling!

If you remember, that deal and bid came right at the very end of the window when Venky's apparently injected a lump of cash Mowbray hadn't been expecting.

100% not having that it was the leak that scuppered the deal. Rovers were credited with interest ages before he signed for Villa. The club failed to make the most of being first in line and paying the money they wanted for him. Why that is, is anybody's guess. We were crying out for a player like him. Seem to remember Mowbray backing the likes of Smallwood to continue his fine work from L1 at the time. He probably thought we didn't need him. Look at how that has turned out.

I don't understand why you're getting so wound up by the suggestion. If we were to sell Rothwell now, do you think the club would sell him for less then £3m? Taking player valuations from that site as gospel just destroys your argument anyway. Unless clubs go on there and provide valuations for their players, surely you've got to agree that they're made up figures as well. By the way, clubs won't do that..

Do you mean clinical?

But how will we reach 300 pages in the transfer thread?

I was thinking the same two. Would be a pleasant surprise. Think I'd much prefer Curtis Jones, although I live in Liverpool and they rate Elliott really highly too.

There's talk on Twitter that it's likely Hull in for Maddison. Grosicki is meant to be in talks with West Brom and they might be selling Bowen.