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The example above about spending “big” when we got promoted initially, and then made a profit - forgets 12 months or whatever it was without a single ticket sold. I too would be happy seeing that much spent on a couple of players but if it was at the cost of a transfer ban next season, because we finished third and lost in the play off final - Id be gutted!

@arbitro Maybe see what it ends up like rather than get too downbeat now, two new right backs and potentially a replacement from Spurs for Poveda isn’t too bad if nobody is sold @islander200 I can’t see why not expecting a big chunk to be chucked at 5 months of football, is “defending the owners!” Come on.

I also would add to what you say, about this particular article - I’d rather the club played down / kept “cards close to their chests” than boldly announce a target or “war chest”.

I’m sure they’ve been in contact/ discussion for well over twelve months? I also think many would’ve questioned selling any of those 3 in question last January or the summer before that? 12 months ago there was no Armstrong or Plot sale in the bank - how close to sanctions (those apparently I shouldn’t be concerned about) where we? Could we increase the wage bull before these sales or the release of Evans, Bennett etc? If we’re promoted, as many rightly point out, the funds alone would it easier for us to match or top any contract those 3 “rebels” may have been offered elsewhere. Hence why it’s a balancing act.

It’s not a bad mess though is it, third in the league, Dack will be like a new signing. The academy is booming, our squad is chock full with talent from it. The main issues for me are contracts but I still don’t understand the “the club have allowed” to run down comment - the players have to sign. Finally, I was told it was “shit or bust” repeatedly last season so perhaps it’s better not to be presumptuous.

You might be right, and staying away from Desai hasn’t done us any harm seemingly! I may be in the minority but I’d rather we didn’t throw everything at this season, I’d rather we build but stay away from the prospect of sanctions, if that is possible.

No way to run a club is it

How do you come to these assertions? I was under the impression - probably a false one, that Balaji was the main family member involved?

Why you’d simply believe whatever someone surmised on here is equally as baffling? You come up with the most boring pet names for people. Do you realise just how tedious this is? Like I said to BB- I don’t know what they’ve offered, so I’m not basing my opinion on a “generous offer” or a “low ball”. If you both read posts without trying to force an argument, you’d know that. I find it baffling that you’d read a few differing opinions and call it a “campaign to discredit him”, frankly.

If you don’t want a discussion, don’t post opinions. I’ve not made my mind up either, so always open to “persuasion” or having my eyes opened more. I agree to an extent, that there is a propensity for us to be attempting to “low ball” some of these contracts, but I’m not claiming that (or the opposite) as fact. Millers input about academy graduates being on an agreed ladder seems entirely possible as I’ve heard many examples of this in football and other sports in the past. We have no idea what these players are being offered though. Thus any assumption to base an opinion is open to question. As I said, AA was made a “very generous offer” to quote either TM or SW. What makes you so convinced Rothwell, Lenihan and RN haven’t been given similar deals? Have you considered our very top wage is potentially half of what Fulham / Bournemouth can offer? Wouldnt you maximise possible career earnings, as a footballer? I would.

I had no idea that his contract offer was public knowledge? What constitutes a “competitive offer” btw? Do you mean in relation to this division? We can’t offer players the same as anyone on parachute payments. Also RN has 6 months left and has been in discussions for over a year, and AA had 12 months despite (according to TM) being offered a “very generous” deal? Who have we sold with 18 left?

Different coach to one who I spoke to yesterday, suggested that Nyambe had “chucked it in” Friday after training with no issue all week. When I heard the same TM quotes, I also got the impression he was careful about what he said but made no effort to hide what had happened.

“Allowing him to reach the stage of his contract” is a phrase I’ve heard loads recently that makes no sense. The player has to sign the contract. If they’re being advised to keep their options open, how is it the club or manager “allowing” this?

The way in which everyone is connected either by people they know or work with, or in the blink of an eye on social media - I think it’s better to leave names out, of anyone who offers me the odd snippet of what’s going on at Ewood. Or it may be the last! I also take some things with a pinch of salt, because (as you know) most things on players are “subjective” and there is a large grey area.

For a time though, and perhaps even now - players got into academy’s because they had physical attributes like height and strength, which are harder to teach and develop than short passing. Look how many players get released for height then end up with a decent career - Tarkowski from us for one example.

As if I’m going to publicly put a name on here of someone who works in football! I also agreed with that assertion, to an extent - compared to the Nyambe who initially got into the team, he has improved massively however his technical ability is nowhere near someone like Rothwell or Buckley. Physically though, he is probably the strongest in the squad, one of the fastest and probably nearly the fittest. Might also explain why he has regular hamstring pulls, because he plays at full throttle. I would say we missed Pickering just as much at the weekend, but no doubt that would be spun into some “pivot” rather than how much I actually rate both our current fullbacks.

Quote? If not, you seem to know exactly how players think? How do you manage that? I would be gutted if RN leaves but in no way similar to Shearer or Duff. The difference you’ve also ignored is we’re seemingly replaced him before him leaving - isn’t that even worth a mention? Or is it only problems we discuss these days? To quote a coach (who has an A license and a stunning CV, including working for Rovers) who I know “RN is an animal but technically he is limited, I’m surprised he’s made it this far”

@Revidge Blue @JHRover Despite the constant “searching” for mismanagement and randomised criticism, have either of you considered that Nyambe et al; want to leave? The discussions have been going on for the last 18 months too, so I’m not sure either of you understand the complexity- and would rather just speculate that these players have been ignored and offered pittance at the last minute. Why do their advisors get a free pass? Have we forgot what agents did to this club? Even the richest club in the world is potentially losing the most expensive talent in the world for nothing come June.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/endendevertraege If this doesn’t link try this; https://www.footballtransfers.com/en/transfer-news/2021/04/out-of-contract-in-2022-best-free-agents-available-on-a-bosman Scary how many players are on short terms across the leagues.

What’s the betting the worst thing happens? JRC and the lad from Drogheda already written off and might as well “let go”?(quote; Sparks) I only want to add that I disagree to both these sweeping criticisms and “we’d never seen anything of” most people we’ve signed, so that as an argument against this Dutch international, to me is just weak.

Key part of thriving is being “the main man” which is impossible if you’re perennially injured and / or playing second fiddle. I still think there is time to improve. Overall, agree on the BB differences part but purposely provoking people? Give me a break pal - it’s not worth my time, and I’m surprised pointing out, that the idea; “negativity” is sometimes detrimental, is so upsetting to you and a few others!

This discourse to me seems like a proper overreaction to “As for BB - those who said he was “hopeless” contributed to his lack of confidence, in my opinion of course.” Did you notice the part in bold? The initial discussion was about SG having a new contract. Hence quotation of “hopeless”. My view on this is we should give him time, Gallagher I mean. There will be some who won’t and that’s up to them, and BB was an example of that freedom. Any away or home stick / abuse was never more than a minority but it did exist. Similarly with online / social media, most patient, a small amount prepared to question his validity as footballer within a blink of an eye. There’s countless examples a thread away. To try and turn this into a “Blaming the fans” or “what is your definition of abuse?” topic, beside the point. I only suggested some opinions had a knock on impact of confidence, why is that so insulting to people, not just you RF? The last thing id say on a topic out of thread, BB (like many players) is a confidence player. It is no coincidence his finishing has improved immeasurably due to the love of Chile fans, the opportunity to play in those international competitions and the cumulative effect of playing consistently and scoring goals. Hence why it’s easy to surmise the fella had a confidence issue when he signed for “big money”. Perhaps Gallagher has a similar issue related to constant niggling injuries?

Wow some of those comments seem ridiculous, I don’t watch enough of bUnla to know much but I thought he was held in much higher esteem. I did think they’ve been very poor transfer wise bar Cornet. Their squad is “Ewd as”

Id say a minority of groans - similarly with social media (as you know Facebook / Twitter) but I’m sure they resonated - as his performances showed, when offered a small chance at the time. There seems to be a large amount of prickly / overreacting to suggestion of some impact with this. We’ve all seen the impact the love from Chile has had - not to mention, lining up with world superstars. I only recall he was a record “tribunal” fee but at his current age he is surely 30/40 probably more if you really want him!

Again - if simply suggesting certain comments and reactions impacted his performance is “blaming fans”…! Ridiculous, not what anyone said. 7m a lot at the time? I don’t know which time you’re talking about? For us a lot, but no reason to write someone off after half a dozen fleeting appearances. He justified his own purchase in the end, hence why certain players are signed for potential. I expected more but I didn’t get a chance to fully see him compete for 12/18 months due to appearances. I don’t think anyone even got close to mentioning what the expectation was - this entire tangent all came from one sentence about certain comments / reactions not helping his (and Sam Gallagher’s) confidence - why this is such a touchy subject is beyond me. Comparison with someone who made the Liverpool first team at 20? Bit different, considering he’d probably cost any team in a position to buy him, at least twice what BB cost.