Hasta

I've never heard any booing against Bennett in the Blackburn End.

Exactly. I don't go because its a game against Preston FC. I go because I can get dropped off in Preston in about 20 minutes, there are plenty of decent pubs and even though the locals really want to beat us they are generally friendly. It's just a good day out. I also don't think we are the lambs to the slaughter some are making us out to be.

Wendy's Radio Rovers co-commentary .

So basically your point is that we might as well give up because if fans aren't going to return after spending £10 to come to a celebratory party atmosphere in the sun, then a "£45 for 3-game" offer in the bleak late-Autumn is not going to attract anyone to come long term. I disagree. I think filling the ground for several one-off occasions will get people used to going to Ewood and may catch the imagination of younger fans who don't attend regularly. I don't have the figures but I'm sure season tickets and walk ons increased last year compared to the League One season. For all you know a lot of those extra fans in the Championship last season only attended one game in League One - Oxford. Doing a special deal to try and fill the home ends once or twice a season cannot be a bad thing, but those offers have to be things like Boxing Day or Preston / Leeds at home on a Saturday. A dead-rubber at home to QPR on a Tuesday night in April doesn't get people's interest the same.

Last year, and I presume this year, we were category D at Sheff weds. The ticket price last season , confirmed on the opening page of the match thread on this board back in March, was £33. We know Leeds is extortionate, but that charge at Elland road is being used by Waggot to justify fleecing Sheff Weds fans purely because they may bring a full house.

Again, last year we charged Wednesday £30 to come to Ewood. They then charged us £33 to go to Hillsboro. 10 months later we are charging them £40 to come to Ewood I don't know what the cost for previous away trips to Sheffield Wednesday were, but it's becoming a myth that we are simply 'matching their prices' for this fixture. We aren't. We are just fleecing other working class fans.

The fact Rovers fans may not need to pay them surely makes it more petty.

£33 for us at Hillsborough last year so we charge them £40 !!! Typical Waggot ploy to try and get away with fleecing the fans and the 'tit for tat' is being used to try and justify it.

I feel sorry for the Sheffield Wednesday fans who p, looking online, are quite rightly stunned at being charged £42 to attend Ewood.

Tickets on general sale tomorrow.

Both Olsson's are unattached at the moment and either could be brought in. Therefore we have an expensive option and a cheaper option !!! Siurely it makes sense in this scenario. As for Lenihan, that's a blow but I would probably have been starting Williams / Tosin at centre half. Nyambe / Tosin / Williams / Martin Olson would probably be a better defence than what we have been playing with !

They avoided relegation from league one on goal difference.

Plymouth at home in league one. was the most one sided game I've seen under TM. However we only hit the target 4 times and ended up drawing 1-1.

I get your point, but we can hardly complain attendances are falling if we accept a full season of mediocrity at the start of October.

Unless someone can show otherwise, I find our short passes are being knocked around between our own back four, or in midfield 50 yards from the opposition goal. Most teams can knock it around at the back and increase their pass stats if they don't try and push forward. The problem is a lot of the time, unless we catch teams on the break, we only looked effective when we fire a long ball in to Graham and play off it. We've tried to change it as Grahams time is drawing to a close but it simply hasn't worked.

You normally get a feeling when a manager is about to go. A feeling that the pressure has built, the dressing room doesn't believe and and there's is no way this manager is turning the situation around. I feel we are right at the start of that process and that, even if we go at relegation form over the upcoming months, it will be into the new year before I think they will consider a change. I think we will stagger at around a point a game from here on in and finish lower middle. What is disappointing is that the league looks fairly wide open. The glaring failure to recruit at the back, and to start the season with 3 of the back 4 who were members of a relegation squad 3 years ago, is now showing.

As I said above, we are coming on the back of two games without a win. We could have got Nyambe back in and put Bennet in midfield where he is better than Evans IMO. Downing would be unlucky but I believe Holtby is simply a better player. Armstrong has scored two goals recently but has generally been poor (no I didn't see Tuesday). Dack up front has always been a disaster (see Preston away). If you bring in a player as good as Holtby is supposed to be, and you are on a run without a win, then you need to find a way to get him in the side.

Armstrong, Downing, Evans or Dack Not that I particularly dislike today's line up. I just feel I feel you have a player who is a level above the others, you need to make sure that player starts. As we are coming off 2 games without a win, I'm sure we could have justified mixing it up to get Holtby in.

Don't understand how Holtby can look the best player on the pitch in 3 cameo appearances, and yet can't get a game when Johnson and Trav are out.

I heard Chapman has started wearing ripped jeams.

Yep, but the Luton crossing, cross accuracy, shots on target and goal stats are quite interesting.

Lenihan and Williams have had a good run but that Aerial weakness costs us so many points. That's twp defeats at home already due to Lenihan not getting his head on a cross he should be doing. "Defenders are coming" and we ended up with Tosin. Mowbray must have believed he was better than what we had so let's see. I just had a nosey on a Forest forum about Tuesdays game. One poster, after watching the Luton highlights, seems to think we are susceptible to crosses and headers and says that's a plus point of their game. Well if he has spotted that, I'm fairly sure the forest coaching staff have too. I would go Williams / Tosin. I am worried that Lenihan will have to start as he has 'resale value'.

From the weekend I would replace one of the centre halves with Tosin. That is nailed on, othwise expect to concede the same goals again and again. Then I would swap Johnson for Holtby, Armstrong for Rothwell and Gallagher for Graham. Although I wouldn't be disappointed if we started 3 at the back as per @Fraserkirky team above.

I need which case I stand corrected. I think the fact the ref made his way back to the centre circle, and didn't go across until the Luton players went across, made it look worse from the BBE. What did cause confusion around me was the drop ball given when the the ball hit the ref in the first half. Not many people seemed aware of the new rule. Has the rule been brought in now that the are no rebounds on penalties or did I just see that as a proposal?

Had the Luton players not charged over and confronted the linesman yesterday the goal would have been given. Whilst ultimately the correct decision was arrived at, what we learnt from that incident was if you think the decision is wrong then charge across, get in his face and have a go at the official. It may prompt them to discuss it and reconsider. Had Luton just 'accepted' the officials decision it was 2-2