Ah, that makes more sense. Yeah, he should definitely keep his trap shut more often. Empty promises. Someone should teach him the theory of underpromise but overdeliver. Because the reverse is painful as hell.

I wouldn't call it a "mistake", more a failure. A mistake would be not trying to get defensive reinforcements. Surely to God he must have tried. It would be madness not to. So he's failed to do the necessary recruitment. Now there could be all sorts of reasons for not getting deals over the line, and I'm sure many excuses are lined up behind the scenes. But failure is failure regardless of any mitigating circumstances. Bosses don't give a crap about reasons, they care about results. And that's in normal business let alone football. And this ain't in a short timespell. He's had 3 windows now since we got promoted from League 1 and it was obvious we'd need to strengthen at the back to compete. That's continuous failure over a prolonged time period. 5 days TM, please make me eat those words.

Messy end to the Catalan Warrington match tonight. 3 or 4 players sent from field of play after the 80th min hooter. Bit of a mini riot in the stands as Wire fans clambered up hoarding to fight. All very football. Unlike the rugby fans.

As has been said before on this board, one change isn't going to rescue our back 5. If TM thinks it is, then that worries me even more. 3 changes and we might be getting somewhere.

Am I missing something Ben? I clicked on it and has us 14th.

I won my bet last season with my Wigan brother-in-law for who finished highest. Asked him if he wanted to go again this year - he refused. He thinks they're nailed on for relegation. He's also pretty envious of the signings we've made.

Please don't have a big Rangers discussion in the match thread. Take it to World Football thread.

Chelsea's 49 loaned out is ridiculous. Pretty much quadruple anyone else. The authorities should be doing something about that. Not sure loan market needs scrapped. Maybe just capped. Any team can only loan out a maximum of 5 or something.

Not really, there's one of each. ? See, that's the problem with the transfer thread, too much guesswork, not enough accuracy. If you're gonna come on here releasing exclusives about the 2's and to's then you damn well better be sure you can back it up with evidence. Otherwise, you'll get eaten alive. Must try harder BDS. Get back to your sources and tell them they've given you duff info.

Agents and favours in same sentence. Bit of an oxymoron. They really are filth. What purpose do they even serve in football? A totally unnecessary commodity. Couldn't believe Juve fans chanting Mino Raiola's name last week. Singing his name like some hero for getting De Ligt to their club. You're cheering someone who's just taken tens of millions from your club for no reason. You should be booing him like a pantomime villain you clowns!

Good. Wouldn't have minded him for a few cameos. But not someone I'd want to spend much of the budget on. Particularly at his age with a suspect injury record.

The gist I've got so far is a keeper is due soon, if that falls through there will be some other keeper options. And a defender may or may not be coming soon. Aaarrgghh, the light, it burns, it buuurrrnnnsss..... Nobody look directly at it, use your safety shades.

Root admitted himself in interview after that it was probably the worst batting performance of his professional career. Seemed a pretty honest assessment.

Gotta be one of the best finals in any sporting code. Great entertainment, well done England.

Sorted. Thank you. ?

Still same for me Phil. I'm on Samsung phone though. Have logged out of web page and come back into website again to see of it reset. Big white bit to the right. No biggie, just thought I'd keep you in the loop.

This. I feel myself being critical of some of the poor skills on show by some of the women's teams and then I flick over to the Africa C Of N..... Jesus Christ some of it is pitiful. I swear every time I tune in some donkey defender or DM is trying to crack a shot from 40 yards out, which always ends up in the top tier of an empty stand. Embarrassing.

He should sign on for the England cricket team then.

I said exact same thing about Murphy when people questioned the money spent on him at his age. "C'mon, he's just played a full season for Fulham, and won player of the year. He's not suddenly gonna turn crap overnight." ☺ I'm therefore not going to comment on Downing. ?

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Ah, such fond memories. I do love to reminisce. ??

3 wins on the bounce, safety assured, heading for mid table finish, a load of our players back on form and showing some real promise on the pitch......... ....... and BRFCS has fans ripping each other's heads off. True story.

When he was struggling a year or so ago, I said to a pal why doesn't he just give it up. He's got bags of money, doesn't need to prove anything, and it was embarrassing watching him hack the ball around the course. I confidently stated he would never win a single tournament, let alone a major. Well, he sure has rammed those words down my throat. And hats off to him for that. To have the hunger at his age to produce that masterclass, quite remarkable really. And although I don't particularly like the guy, you're right that moment at the end with his Mum and kids was very touching. They've seen him toil and suffer for a decade now (a lot self inflicted), so to see it all pay off and the redemption arc completed was a great thing. Well done Tiger!

Scores, they ain't results yet. A bit to go. Was just looking at table, if hull come back to win, Wigan cud go into bottom 3 on goal difference. ....... and Hull score as I finish post.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D15FKVNME1ng&ved=0ahUKEwjdlba7t7HhAhXJaVAKHQuRBScQ_-MBCKgBMBk&usg=AOvVaw19OadxxxEhIdm1vV4hWC4I Simeon Jackson showing he hasn't lost that magic scoring touch since his spell with us. ??