Silas

I'm already counting him as gone. Surely anything 15 mill upwards and the owners/club would want to sell, and he'd couldn't turn down his first oppurtunity to play in the Prem. And I wouldn't blame either of them. We need the money badly. And without him I reckon we'd still be languishing in League 1. So as gutted as I would be, and I do think it would de-rail our season, I've accepted it as an inevitability. If we manage to keep him till end of season it would be a Brucie Bonus.

That's bad news for us then. When a West Ham bid comes in January, he'll be keen to move to the area.

I remember it was fairly tight all season between us, so must have been that 97/98 year. Figures really, I'm a dab hand at losing close season long bets. Last one was with a Toon mate that they wouldn't win the Championship. Was winning that up till the 89th min of the 46th game when Brighton let a 10 man Villa equalise. (Damn you Grealish!) This season is us versus Wigan for highest position. Looking good so far, but I'm pretty worried about their new owners splashing some cash in January.

All sounds pretty fair to me. Good luck for season anyway. Actually don't mind u lot after living there for 5 years. My housemate at Uni was Leeds too. Back when we were battling each other late 90's for top 6 in Prem. We bet each other for highest position. Genuinely can't remember who won. And like us now you've done the drop to League 1, and I do love a comeback. Wouldn't mind seeing u back up the top league. See, I'm one of the few that don't hate u. ? You do realise you're viewing figures are so good on Sky cos everyone is tuning in to watch you lose right. ?

? You normally have to cast the net a bit wider to catch any whoppers on here. But sod it, I'm feeling obliging and don't want your efforts being in vain. So, in reply to you giving yourself a big pat on the back: https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-championship-2016-2017/1/ 2 seasons ago you were 5th in home league attendance. And of that list the most comparable to yourselves is Newcastle (a one team city of similarish size) , and they almost double your "box office" levels. So I'd maybe lay off labeling yourself a big club some 18 months after Brighton, Derby, and Sheff Wed were all matching you. Good luck with it all though! Maybe some success on the pitch will help get you back to a decent level in English football for first time in decades. ?

Not to jump down your throat, but that sentence typifies the issue. Do you think he organised it?! No, the FA did and invited him back. What's he gonna do? What, you want me to come back and honour me for my service to England football - piss off, I've got better things to do! Everyone would have gone even more mental then. Oh look at Rooney, thinks he's above England now. Can't even be bothered getting on a plane to come and be honoured. See, always said he was an ungrateful git. The boy literally can't win sometimes no matter what he does. I wouldn't want his life for anything, barring the bank balance obviously.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-sky-sports-earnings-14548856.amp 'Only 100k", or words to that effect, is a strange one, even in the crazy financial world of football. So, Leeds get 760k in a season from extra TV matches. Last time we were in Champ think we had a grand total of 2 matches on. If one was home, one away (guess, can't be bothered looking), then that's £110k for us. And we're supposed to agree paying one club in the same division 7 times more than another = financial fair play. The disparity might not seem like much to some people, but for many of the bottom half clubs that difference would be a new player. Hell, it's almost a Bradley Dack.

Ok, you don't need to shout. It bemuses me I must say. For years people have slagged friendlies, said what a waste if time they are, and that they need scrapped. Then, one unpopular ex player is earmarked for a send off, and everyone does a promt u-turn. Now, friendlies are some hallowed event, and it's sacrilege and an insult to the badge for our record outfield cap holder and goal scorer to don the shirt again. It doesn't add up, so there's definitely some hidden agendas amongst it all.

Would everyone still be getting worked up about this if it was Beckham or Lampard having this done (when they were still playing in MLS)? I do wonder how much of the adverse reaction is more to do with the charachter involved rather than the action itself.

Did you not get the memo. Jason Lowe left the club.

None of those words are filling me with confidence.

Says it all when I feel such surprise and relief for a correct call being given against us. About bloody time!

The next 20 mins of my life feel like they have a certain inevitability about them. Where's Bill Murray?

Those subs just ensured this messageboard will explode should Bolton equalise, or God forbid win. If we see it out though, I'm gonna spend all night telling everyone what a tactical genius TM is. ?

Because he's frustrated with it all. He's gonna be gone January I reckon if a decent club comes in. Wouldn't blame him, must be murder for him being part of this turgid stuff.

We can't even trap simple balls here. It's embarrassing.

The plot thickens. Have the Village People reformed? Is Tom dusting off the leather chaps!

You don't have to be ashamed of being a Level 42 fanboy. I've always figured zimmer frames in the mosh pit is quite endearing. ?

You gotta wonder what promises have been made to Chelsea about match time in order to get him here. As he seems to be getting way more crack of the whip then some other midfielders that have performed far better.

Nice one, that's the cheeriest thing I've read on this board in over 24hrs. I'll put the razor away now.

Just had a peek at our best odds with the bookies , haven't really checked them out since start of season. We're exactly same odds at moment for promotion and relegation. 16 to 1. Not many teams like that, with mirrored odds, just us and Millwall really. Two teams recently brought up from League 1, and the professionals don't hav a clue which end of the table we'll head towards. Hope it's a surprise push towards the top 8.

Unbeaten teams in the Championship: Aston Villa, Leeds, Middlesbrough, Nottingham Forest..........Blackburn Rovers. So, with the bookies at beginning of season, basically 4 of the favourites for the top 6, and a relegation candidate. Can't argue with that start.

Wow, that's a pretty passionate response. Your deep rooted feelings towards the bloke ooze off the page. Fair play to you, I've been there with players before. Consider me officially worried then. The only solace I will take though, is that a couple of times you've mentioned attitude, cowardice, application etc. And u don't doubt there's some talent there right? He can play a bit. So, IF, our manager could wave a magic wand and change the attitude and heart, that's a decent player at a bargain price right?! Yes, that's probably just me, your cliche football fan, trying to think the best all the time. (It's the hope that kills you) But it does happen on occasion, a player just not being right at a club, but thriving at another. Here's hoping. Tell you what, would be a major feather in the cap for ToMo if he did somehow revive the lads career.

Do you think your negative view of him has been exaggerated because of the high wages?! Just you wrote an essay breaking down the attributes of the player, and mention the 70k twice. Which, to be frank, is totally irrelevant to his skill set or performance levels. Not knocking you, it's human nature, and we've done exactly the same as fans. When the disaster of Murphy and Etuhu were disgracing our midfield, it was doubly galling as we'd spanked most of our summer budget on them, and they were 2 of the highest paid at the club. So when Danny sauntered around the centre circle for 90 mins, it made our opinion of him twice as scathing. (Christ I still loathe that man.) So hypothetically, judging a 70k a week player in the Premier League, might be different from say, a player on 15k a week in a mid table or bottom half Championship club. P.S. I know I'm maybe interpreting wrong, but "4 years of HIM not winning a game". C'mon, there's 10 other players on the pitch each week, and you were going through a horrendous spell of results (i.e. double drop). Surely you can't be laying the blame for all of that at his door.

Yeah, I take past teams fans opinions with a huge pinch of salt. Aberdeen fans flooded this board to tell us we'd just bagged the best Scottish striker since Kenny Dalglish. (Goodwillie). And Cardiff fans told us Gestede couldn't hit a barn door. Look how those two turned out.