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I was thinking that too, it’s gonna go down in history. 15 years from now ‘remember when Mowbray had Sam Gallagher at right back?’ will still get the occasional mention. Let’s hope Mowbray leaves soon like Souness did after that (can’t see Midtable Mogga being poached though somehow).

I don’t no, but ‘Middlesbrough fans’ seems a bit of a generalisation based on one email. It’s an abysmal result of course, but it’s happened a few months into a relatively new manager’s reign which has on the whole gone very well so far. So that’s why there’s practically zero criticism of Warnock from what I’ve seen. If it happened to us now after years of Mowbray’s ‘slow build’ and with most of us believing he’s taken us as far as he can? Different story.

You must have done well to find that comment somewhere! Just had a scroll through the hundreds of replies to the Middlesbrough account tweeting the final score tonight. Haven’t seen one ‘Warnock out’ or negative comment against him, and the tweet with the most likes is one fan saying how well he’s done to have that squad 7th in the league. I’d swap him for Mowbray tomorrow.

100% yes. As already touched on, this year was meant to be 'the year' after two seasons of 'consolidation'. This summer we didn't lose any key players yet again, the players brought in looked to be very good signings, we were saying that everything was in place (apart from those of us who've had doubts about Mowbray's ability to get us challenging for a while now). So if I was told that we'd be plodding along in mid-table yet again being x amount of points from the play offs, then it would have simply confirmed what plenty of us were quite sure of and what surely everybody must realise now - we're not going to finish in the top 6, let alone go up, with Mowbray. I don't agree with outstanding start by the way, unless you're referring to the first three games only, in which yep we had two thumping wins. But two wins out of three soon became two wins out of six, and three out of 10. I'd say it's after about 10 games when a start to a 46 game season can be judged.

Agreed, that one always comes to mind. I'd never seen the stands so empty at half time before.

2 wins in 6 to start the season was it? And 3 in about 9 or 10? We never had any consistency (apart from showing consistent mid-table form). Thanks a lot for the summary btw.

And what was the trigger for them becoming a promotion challenging team almost overnight and then getting promoted? Binning the managers that had them finishing about 13th every year and pushing the boat out for an excellent one. I don't want to have to wait 15 years for that like they had to.......

Allen was £13m according to a transfermarkt and a few other sources.

No certainly not at the moment, as I don’t think Mowbray is under any pressure regardless of whether we win, lose or draw. So we may as well win in that case, of course, even if mid-table is our limit. If for some reason there was a guarantee that a loss would lead to his departure, then that’d be a game changer.....

This. Being a supporter is about wanting the best for your club. The best for Rovers right now and going forward, I think we can (almost) all agree, is not Mowbray. If it was a choice between winning on Tuesday and on we plod, or lose and he’s guaranteed (that’s the key word there) to resign or be sacked, then it’d be a no-brainer. As I believe that could be the best for Rovers long term. I’d have taken getting hammered 20 Premier League games in a row if it meant Kean would have been sacked. Unfortunately it was clear he was bulletproof. Bit like Mowbray appears to be now (he’s obviously nowhere near Kean and Coyle’s level, goes without saying, but best just make that clear...).

zzzzz More mid-table nothingness from Mid-table Mowbray's mediocre men.

I agree that - if we were a normal club - we should think outside the box rather than appoint somebody who got promoted from the Championship about ten years ago but is now on the scrapheap. It’d have to be more obscure than someone like De Zerbi though. He’s currently sat in the Champions League places in Serie A. His next job will be a big Italian club rather than following on from Mid-table Mogga. It’d have to be someone more obscure but still promising. I’d love to make a foreign appointment and have somebody with completely fresh ideas rather than Mowbray getting muddled trying to work out whether it’s Sheffield United, Leeds or the latest flavour of the month whose approach he’d like to copy. The team being in such poor form, ideally we’d be looking at smaller European leagues or second divisions in the larger European countries looking for potential managers. Shame we’re not normal and, as you say, he’s here for the foreseeable and we’ll just keep on plodding away.

Big Sam is a much better manager than Mowbray. It’s not even a debate and to be honest they shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath. Big Sam gets results at the highest level (wherever he goes), while Mowbray is currently trying to convince us that he’s a ‘performance-based manager’ sat halfway down the second tier. Anyway, come on Rovers!

I think you’re absolutely miles off with that one. I’d bin Mowbray tomorrow but would never have sacked Big Sam and it was obvious where we were heading when he was sacked (ten years ago today I believe by the way). In fact, I’d say a lot of those who were happy to see Big Sam go due to some nonsense about his style of play are content with what Mowbray is serving up just because we’re ‘easier on the eye’ and scoring a few more goals. That does mean there are people who were unhappy with us in mid-table in the Premier League but happy with us stuck in mid-table in the Championship. Very strange, but that’s the impression I get.

Another wasted season. The league is as weak as ever and it’s absolutely wide open, yet we’re slap bang in the middle in 12th, 12 points off the top and 12 above relegation, you (almost) couldn’t make it up. This is after bringing in a load of signings and quite sure he’s never had to sell anyone he hasn’t wanted to in almost four years in charge, what a luxury. You often hear talk now of “remember that season when both Rhodes and Gestede banged in over 20 goals? How didn’t we at least get in the play offs!”. Well fast forward a few years from now and the equivalent will be “remember the season when Armstrong scored 30 and we had Harvey Elliott on loan? How didn’t we at least get in the play offs!”. It’s all just extremely frustrating.

Of course we have! Do you not remember the 18/19 season when we finished.......15th? I'm the same though. There's almost no point analysing the matches themselves or getting too upbeat or optimistic after a win because the bigger picture will always be the same - we'll never be challenging under Midtable Mowbray.

Is it not just one game for Lenihan? Thought Neil on comms said it'd just be one game whether second yellow or straight red.

Absolutely superb that, well done Rothwell, joy to watch he is.

His win percentage overall as a manager - Oldham and Barrow - must be in single figures.

Lovely strike that, get in there.

Alternatively, I see Rooney is in charge against Wycombe and if they win both those games - which is possible - they'll probably panic and end up giving him the job. Which would probably end up being hilarious.

It does ring a bell from a while ago yep. Maybe the Chilean media were waiting for him to hit some good form before reporting on it!

He’s got a load of Chileans on his Instagram now asking him to play for them ? now that word has got out about him being eligible. He’s been excellent lately and delighted for him to have 3 goals already (plus a few assists). Can’t believe he’s the same player as the one we saw before the first lockdown. Keep it up Ben.

Come on Rovers, have to win this now. Well done Gallagher for not going down until he got in the box. Preston really have been dire.

Big Sam linked with the Derby job. Not sure how much there is to it, but I hope he doesn’t go there - as they’d be ahead of us after a few weeks.