I do too. Henderson is class as well. But if either of them get injured it's either Kalvin Phillips who has played 1 season of Prem football, or 17 year old Jude Bellingham in there. Both have done well this season, for club and country, but are unproven.

EURO2021_Match_Schedule - English (uefa.com) Likely to be 28th or 29th June.

There were always going to be quibbles over the final 26, yet in tournaments prior England were struggling to name 23. Holding midfield is light and central defenders aren't world beaters either but the attacking talent should make up for it.

The England squad is out; Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson (Manchester United), Sam Johnstone (West Bromwich Albion), Jordan Pickford (Everton) Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Ben Chilwell (Chelsea), Conor Coady (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Reece James (Chelsea), Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Tyrone Mings (Aston Villa), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), John Stones (Manchester City), Kieran Trippier (Atletico Madrid), Kyle Walker (Manchester City) Midfielders: Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Mason Mount (Chelsea), Kalvin Phillips (Leeds United), Declan Rice (West Ham United) Forwards: Dominic Calvert-Lewin (Everton), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Jack Grealish (Aston Villa), Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Jadon Sancho (Borussia Dortmund), Raheem Sterling (Manchester City) All 4 right backs made it. Lingard, Ward-Prowse, White, Godfrey, Watkins, Ramsdale, and injured Greenwood are the ones who miss out.

It's looking like the squad will be named at 5pm UK time. TAA, Lingard, Ward-Prowse are said to be out. Greenwood has pulled out due to injury. If all is true there are 3 more to go. One will be a keeper, whom I will assume is Ramsdale. The other two? Godfrey and White? Edit: apparently squad numbers will be listed too which with England is usually an indication of the starting 11.

I thought that it was a pretty decent game. The first half was very entertaining. Chelsea were by far the better team. As has been pointed out, Guardiola got too clever and it backfired. This one will sting. They waltzed to the final then froze. It looks like all the England lads came through unscathed, unlike DeBruyne. Overall this year's champs league wasn't a classic. There weren't any memorable games.

There is a supporters shield for the team that accumulates the most points during the season but you are right in that the MLS champ is crowned after playoffs and a final. I think that there are 14 or 16 teams get in this season. Last year was odd for obvious covid reasons. Columbus won it all last time. Nobody in America expects the MLS to challenge the Premier League. It has its fans and does well for what it is.

I must be getting old as I'm with Collymore. Low block is particularly annoying. It's sitting deep, packing it in, parking the bus, giving them the halfway line. False 9 used to be deep lying centre forward. Number 8 - box to box midfielder. 6 - holding midfielder. I don't know if it's American specific but my son is always told to connect his passes.

I read the same. Was it the Guardian? Solskjær’s lack of a cohesive attacking structure has been brutally exposed | Manchester United | The Guardian What made it worse is that Man U could have made another sub, and Henderson has saved almost half of the penalties he's faced. What I read was pretty scathing toward Solskjear. He isn't up to it. I've said that since he was appointed. His squad is paper thin and he relies on Fernandes for everything.

Not Champs League but it fits here. I watched the last 20 mins plus extra time of the Europa league final last night. It was turgid stuff. The penalty shootout was good though. All of Villareal's were top notch. Their keeper got close to about 4 of Man U's before saving De Gea's attempt. 4 titles now for Emery. He could be on 5 if his Arsenal team would have turned up against Chelsea 2 years ago.

He mentioned as much in his after match comments last night. His foot and shoulder are giving him grief. Fernandes looked gone too. Hopefully he doesn't have anything left in the tank for Portugal. Another aspect that has plagued England teams is that they get to a major tournament and the players are knackered from playing too much. This doesn't look to be the case this time. Squad rotation and injuries have helped.

TAA had a bad few months. That Real game and Southgate dropping him was his nadir. Since then he's knuckled down and is now performing very well. I'd have him playing but won't gripe if either Walker or Tripper get the nod. Wan-Bissaka is at least 5th choice. James Justin may even be ahead of him. He puts in a good sliding tackle but is not better than the others.

Sven's teams were thin everywhere aside from central defence and central midfield. Yet Sven tried to shoehorn all his star midfielders into the side, and had to deal with a Ferdinand suspension/Campbell/King injuries. Up front if either Owen or Rooney got injured - which both of them did at separate tournaments - back ups were thin. Vassell or Walcott anyone? Add in the Ferguson, and latterly Mourinho, driven club over country mantra that pitted the squad against each other and it is no wonder that they underachieved. You can chop and change any number of players in today's squad and not see a drop in quality.

Of the 4 Gary Neville would be first out. Ashley Cole was world class. The 4 used during that era; Ferdinand, Campbell, Terry, and King were all excellent defenders. England 04-06 had iffy keepers. David James in 04 and Paul Robinson in 06. You could have had the Italian back 4 admiral Nelsen mentioned yet they'd get a bit nervous with either of those 2 behind them. Sven had a midfield with talent to spare but no balance. There wasn't a left sided midfielder in sight. Joe Cole did a job for a while but he wasn't a natural there. I think that individually Sven's England had a better individual talent in his first 11 but for overall squad depth, balance, and camaraderie the current iteration is miles ahead. Both squads got knocked out on penalties. I think that 06 was the better team. Rooney's idiocy, not bad luck, cost that side.

Add in the Leicester trio - Maddison, Barnes, Justin. Plus Gomez and Oxlade-Chamberlain (a stretch this one but prior to his bad injury 2 years ago he was in the starting 11) from Liverpool.

I've changed my mind. Trippier out Greenwood in. Southgate doesn't need 3 right backs.

There were. He likes the top right. Gignac was linked to all and sundry a few years back. I too was surprised that he went to Mexico, but teams there pay top wages. Incidentally it's one of the major reasons cited for Mexico's usual bright but ultimate early failure at World Cups. Mexican players don't need to leave their homeland for financial reasons, and they are treated like royalty, so they are happy to stay, win CONCACAF Champions Leagues, all whilst being isolated from the world game. It is turning though and there are a more going to Europe now. They all have a long way to go though to match Hugo Sanchez who starred at Real in the 80's.

Full provisional squad; Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson (Manchester United), Sam Johnstone (West Bromwich Albion), Nick Pope (Burnley), Aaron Ramsdale (Sheffield United) Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Ben Chilwell (Chelsea), Conor Coady (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Ben Godfrey (Everton), Reece James (Chelsea), Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Tyrone Mings (Aston Villa), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), John Stones (Manchester City), Kieran Trippier (Atletico Madrid), Kyle Walker (Manchester City), Ben White (Brighton & Hove Albion) Midfielders: Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Jesse Lingard (West Ham United, loan from Manchester United), Mason Mount (Chelsea), Kalvin Phillips (Leeds United), Declan Rice (West Ham United), James Ward-Prowse (Southampton) Forwards: Dominic Calvert-Lewin (Everton), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Jack Grealish (Aston Villa), Mason Greenwood (Manchester United), Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Jadon Sancho (Borussia Dortmund), Raheem Sterling (Manchester City), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa) Good luck culling that down to 26. I think that barring injuries Southgate sees Ramsdale, Godfrey, White, Watkins as first out. Then cut 3 from; TAA, James, Trippier, Greenwood, Saka, Sancho. I'd leave out the first 4 plus James, Greenwood, Saka.

Agreed. Any debate was around Pope or Pickford. Now Pope is out the debate is over. I've not read anything lately about Pickford so I assume that he has been solid. Southgate names his squad tomorrow. The BBC have put together this nifty summary; England Euro 2020 squad: Gareth Southgate to pick 26-man squad - choose your own - BBC Sport. This was the squad for the games in March; Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson (Manchester United), Sam Johnstone (West Bromwich Albion), Nick Pope (Burnley) Defenders: Ben Chilwell (Chelsea), Conor Coady (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Eric Dier (Tottenham Hotspur), Reece James (Chelsea), Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Tyrone Mings (Aston Villa), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), John Stones (Manchester City), Kieran Trippier (Atletico Madrid), Kyle Walker (Manchester City) Midfielders: Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Jesse Lingard (West Ham United, loan from Manchester United), Mason Mount (Chelsea), Kalvin Phillips (Leeds United), Declan Rice (West Ham United), James Ward-Prowse (Southampton) Forwards: Dominic Calvert-Lewin (Everton), Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Manchester City), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa) I don't see it changing much. Pickford in for Pope. Jordan Henderson in (he was a sub for Liverpool yesterday) for Ward-Prowse. Grealish for Saka or Watkins. Does TAA get in ahead of La Liga winning Tripper or wing back suited Reece James?

If reports from yesterday are true Nick Pope has to have knee surgery, thus ruling him out of the Euros. I had Pickford down to start before this. Dean Henderson anyone?

Phil Mickelson won the US PGA at 50. 8 years after his last major. Koepka aside, the top 5 was a throwback to 10/15 years ago; Mickelson, Oosthuizen, Harrington, Lowry. There was a full crowd on too. They were enjoying themselves.

It's hard to argue with your assessment. Although I think that Rice will get run ragged if Mount and Foden are next to him. Liverpool are top of the form table over the last 10 games, TAA has benefitted from that as he has been outstanding. It would be a shame if he's left out. Is Henderson fit? He's not played in months. I've always liked Gomez and Oxlade-Chamberlain. Both of them are going to miss out on another tournament due to injuries. I have Pickford, Walker, Stones, McGuire, Rice, Henderson (if fit), and Kane as definites. Mount and Chilwell as probables.* Then pick 2 from Rashford, Sterling, and Foden. *Foden or Grealish for Mount. Shaw for Chilwell as my thinking is that as Shaw plays next to Maguire for Man U they have a good understanding.

He'll find something. There are plenty of other teams close by, but it may mean driving a bit further than he has been doing though. I grew up in East Lancs so have no history or contacts where he lives. Apparently Bolton or Accy Stanley (can't remember which) offered for him to go and play for them whenever he feels like it, no contract or training commitment, just turn up when he wants to. I don't know how that would work.

Rovers had no European history so fans didn't know what to think about it all. Trelleborg were, as you said, part time no names. They convincingly won the tie though. Rovers were shocking. The same happened the year after. As I remember it there was no excitement going into 95-96. Dalglish going upstairs took the wind out of everybody's sails. These are all my own fantasyland thoughts but I think that winning the title in 94-95 hurt the club long term. It may have been a season too early. Imagine if Man U would have won it on the last day? Dalglish wouldn't have been happy, and would have stayed on. Jack Walker would have been the same way and sanctioned buying better players than Matty Holmes. The fans would have felt it all so would want to see a title. Rovers win it in 96, Shearer stars at the Euro's, and a CL bound team attracts even more good players. Shearer stays. Anyway, back to reality and Mowbray's Championship mid table mediocrity.

Did Yuran score a cracker? I have a vague memory of one. You are also right about the style of play. Rovers had a very English way of playing; get it up front quickly, get the ball wide from there, and supply the strikers. It took all English teams a good few years to work out how to play in Europe after the Heysel ban. Ferguson talked about it regularly. I remember Arsenal getting the run around by Benfica one year. They made Arsenal dizzy with all their passing. Who knows how it would have looked if the ban hadn't happened. Would Dalglish's Liverpool team have given Gullit's Milan a game?