Dreams of 1995

It begs the question: why employ him in the first place? A lot of ‘staff turnover’ is usually a sign of something bad. There’s been a few coming and going this summer. It seems odd Chamberlain has gone when one of our better signings last year was a dirt cheap goalkeeper from Belgium. I would very much like Waggott to piss off now. His time running this club has amounted to nothing. Has he done anything he has set out to do? Couldn’t even get the bloody sale of Brockhall over the line

I try not to get entangled in your baiting but to lay the blame of all of the clubs mess at Mowbrays door is lazy He’s is a symptom and not the illness The fact that average managers like Mowbray are allowed to run, without accountability, bills of up to £20m is down to a lack of board level scrutiny That board is determined by one group of people only - Venkys Mowbray was allowed to recommend a mate to sign up as CEO but it was the owners who ultimately hired him. And it is the owners who continue to employ him It is the owners who stuck by Mowbray through his latest bad spell And it is the owners who have seen us in two embargo’s in 10 years, 2 relegations and a decimation of professional structure This mess we are in is not solely down to Mowbray but a continuing decline of professionalism overseen by a group of people who have no interest in change.

Chill out

He owns the club so of course he should show his bloated face once in a while Even if it is just for a picture to show Ms Hilton what he owns But all jokes aside the supporters of this club are well within their rights to have bad feelings towards Venkys for all that they have put this club through He doesn’t come to the ground because of a snowball - they don’t come because they know full well the reception they will get. That would change though, if only they showed a willing to run the club properly. The poor relationship isn’t undeserved.

I would be I have daft fingers and keep finding myself clicking the ad Dont mind but if there’s an option to get rid I would take it

Off to Swansea I believe

It’s funny seeing the Chileans on social media posts demanding Brereton(-Diaz) constantly. I noticed on the home kit reveal and thought they’d definitely show him on the away kit. Instead we were given Gallagher. Small complaint but come on, give the fans what they want to see. Let’s see Brereton-Diaz in a home and away kit. They might be bloody tempted to buy it!! That’s if Waggot won’t try and screw them over on international shipping

I had a feeling Macron would deliver that more personal touch Two fantastic kits. Think I’ll buy the away one. It will be the first shirt I’ve bought in years, not usually my style but too good not to buy imo

What does generation have to do with this debate? 😄 The people making these decisions aren’t “Gen Z” - not that it makes a difference I don’t think the vaccine passports will happen. It seems too intrusive.

It’s all well and good shedding people like Holtby but if you can’t get a better player, why not give him a contract? A two year one at most We just appear to be very thin on the ground. Out of that squad that started today there’s a few injury cases. Ayala, Chapman, Davenport and Rothwell will pick up knocks. Maybe Lenihan too. Then the back up to them is pretty untested. Wondering if we ever will make a signing this summer. Very strange. The club has gone into hibernation. There’s not much of a commercial structure and the football side seems to be skating by. I am starting to believe that this season is all about hoping we aren’t the worst team. It could be a long year

Toots and the Maytals - 54-46 was my number

Think it is a lovely kit

Been on a bit of a grime binge at the moment and thought I’d share one of the best Fire In The Booths out there - if you can ignore Charlie Sloth Listen on repeat, Wretch has always had bars

Any Warzone players amongst us?

Must be some kind of sick joke. Mowbray is in charge of this club from top to bottom now. A real out dated way of running a football club. Although, Wanyama and Van Dijk were some signings

Best of Brum right here with a great tune Can hear the garage vibes, always been popular here. Brum delivers again

Take yourself down to East Lancs on Saturday, and then take yourself down to Cherry Tree Come back on here and talk about how demographic doesn’t matter You are living in the past

I think it is pie in the sky stuff to say local populace is irrelevant. And demographics being destiny is not dog whistle racism either. Demographics defines demand. In local areas where there is a high Muslim population it stands to reason pubs, betting agencies, non-Halal butchers etc all are deemed surplus to requirements. Therefore, long standing businesses like those will erode as the demographic changes. They will be replaced by new businesses which cater better for the needs of the new demographic. This goes for gentrifcation too. When younger people move in to an area the whole business ethos of that area changes. Demographics changed the destiny of that postcode / region or whatever. You only need to look at how the surrounding area of the East Lancs cricket ground has changed in my lifetime alone to see that demand in that area will change. In a club that apparently relied heavily on bar purchases for turnover it is no surprise that, when the crowds dwindle and do not get replaced with likeminded people, that turnover drastically falls. Compare with the likes of Cherry Tree which has a younger, British population, more likely to drink alcohol, and where the club house is rocking every weekend. They aren't taking new members at the moment - or at least wasn't when I last checked. This is a total turnaround from 15/20 years ago. This is the same for Read, Feni, Darwen etc. I remember my Grandad telling me East Lancs has had financial difficulties for some time but if that vital bar turnover has been taken away then that only furthers the burden. It won't solely be down to demographic change but it has definitely had an impact, otherwise he would not have mentioned the reduced bar income.

That reads to me like the refurb is potentially delayed and they want to save the kit launch for when it is complete

Poor choice of wording Makes it more easily acceptable** If he did feign an attack then he got what he deserved and the fight back was proportionate. As said, Schilling could have thought it was a knife and reacted out of pure instinct. I still doubt that though given his history but we are only privy to a 20 second video.

Nah, I get it. There’s always that one person in the bar / pub that thinks it is all about him. In the U.K. they are usually wearing spray on jeans and have a fake tan. That said, this bloke is a trained fighter. He has a responsibility. If he was attacked I could understand it. I’ll be honest and say I didn’t see the flinch from the other bloke, but if he did try and feign a hit and got filled in as a result then it is his fault. For all Schilling knows it could be a knife. The fact the bloke is ok makes it acceptable but it could have very easily gone the other way. Bisping showed how it is done but he made a very good point about his younger years. I have heard a couple of things about him now that lead me to believe he wasn’t very pleasant.

That’s pathetic imo. I don’t think the guy was being particularly annoying but it was a short video. Schilling ain’t even that good of a fighter in relative terms. I follow the Bellator and I’m sure he’s lost more than he has won. He was refused a boxing license a while back and looking at this it isn’t surprising. You can tell the type of bloke Schilling is by the way he was walking back in the bar. He looked ready for trouble. Apparently the drunk guy was being a clown though and supposedly racist to a server. Who knows.

More than some people care to acknowledge I spent many a weekend with my grand parents at East Lancs. Used to love the shortbread cakes they would do in the tea house. Or jam scones. Trying to sneak a game of cricket in on the sides towards the back end of the ground. One of my better memories in life is being 16 and enjoying one of my first pints with my grandad (on the quiet). Felt a big lad at the time finally being able to enjoy a tipple from the bar that was, as a youngster, always a place I wanted to be The English culture in some parts of Lancashire has been totally eradicated. This is another in a long list of tragic stories that has happened under the guise of multiculturalism.

What are his exAg, +\-aGra, ex AsI5t, total runs per acre and >goals/m2 stats in that position though?

I have missed a lot of this thread but what happened to the credits generated from purchasing match day passes on ifollow? I was under the impression you got a certain reduction pro-rata your number of passes bought?? And what is the justification for not including young adults in it and, from a legal point of view, can they promise reductions last year (which may have influenced consumer choice) and then take it away this year? Surely that is against regulations....