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Buying a ST is an endorsement of already being happy with the value for money. ? However the feedback on the matchday experience is surely still valid ? e.g. Chaddy moans about the loud music and there have been a few suggesting real ales etc on the concourses and doing up the lounges etc.

Thanks Chaddy. I filled it in as I didn't receive it. No point us moaning on here about stuff then not telling them directly when they ask. Fair play for them doing this. I gave feedback on the Waggott Tax and a few other things.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bradley-dack/profil/spieler/238556 so show me where you plucked 20 mill from.

The top 6 statement was either :- a.) Lies to sell STs. b.) True, in which case the club needs to make a statement explaining what their intention is to bring us back on track. The top 6 ambition / target was either :- a.) Mowbray's or Waggott's concoction. b.) The owner's specified target. This needs clarity ASAP.

£20 million for Dack. Let's not be silly. £8 million absolute tops. He isn't good enough for the PL indeed many games he struggles in the Champ. He will also never play for England. Take off your blue and white sunglasses so you can see the light

This is the lineup according to Sharpe. Thank God for Bell picking up that mysterious knee injury. As good as it gets this lineup. We just need to turn up and put the effort in now.

I agree that will be the team. Although I disagree with it. I would go with... Walton Nyambe Toshin Williams Johnson Bennett Holtby Dack Downing Graham Armstrong

Another story in direct response to a BRFCS thread. Greg has his targets. Tony has his targets. Greg missed his target because Tony lost against Charlton. I was surprised to learn this much lauded 1875 club only has 1800 members.

Phil Neville ?

Mick Mcarthy ?

next 2 games needs to be 6 points ! Then we have Preston, Sheff Wed and Leeds so not an easy trilogy.

"great" was an embellishment but you suggest he must have once been a good player or at least a promising talent before he arrived here.

Watch the QPR goals back and watch what Bell is doing (ball watching / walking / zero effort / not giving a toss) when each goal is scored. This is a bloke who just got his chance to get back in the team, show his worth and keep his place... No thanks. Agreed that Bennett is also poor. All the goals originated from his position and him being out of it. However, tbf Bennett is a midfielder playing out of position and Bell is supposed to be playing in his own position. I keep reading that Bell is a crap defender but good going forward. Sorry but he is a defender so first and foremost, that is his job and he doesn't do it.

So if you are saying Bell must be a great player, then the blame must lie with our coaching staff for him being an undeveloped shadow of his former promising talent ? It has to be one or the other because he really isn't up to this standard.

See above I amended my post. 1. Suhail. You are adding the word Director. Head of is responsible for. Simple business review of responsibilities. 2. Mowbray's job to keep or lose. There is a backup plan (at least to the end of the season) which is within budget. 3. No 3 individual meetings. The 4th meeting after the employees had been sent back to work will have been the crucial one.

Waggott didn't go. Suhail did. He has been made Head of (taken responsibility which previously was Mowbray's) not Director of anything. To be more precise, Tony has been relieved of the responsibility.

Isn't it odd that Waggott wasn't involved in any of this ? No because his "power" (responsibility) is limited to the commercial side. TM has now been formally relieved of some of his duties to focus solely on his main responsibilty of challenging for the top 6. This is the vision he sold to them and must now deliver. The trigger finger is twitching.

Toshin and Bell definately playing, going off the LT piece. Obviously the club PR are reading this thread and concerns over Bell's (in)capability. Mowbray addressing the concerns so we can all feel reassured.

We shouldn't believe everything we read in the paper (LT) as ALL quotes are spoon fed PR from the club. Mowbray was given a target of 12 points from 6 games and has failed massively with one still to play. He was summoned to India to answer for his inept failure. He has privately been given a "vote of confidence" from our humble and trusting owners but watch out for the next points target which will be his last. This reshuffle is just window dressing in anticipation of his exit, to minimise casualties and see Johnson become head coach. Pressure now on.

We have been told that the target is a top 6 finish. We all know that is not how football works and most clubs will have the same aspirations. It isn't as easy as just getting into the top 6 because you say it in an interview. However, this does mean we should be visibly challenging and competing for the top 6. If we don't get there we can see the shortcomings, strengthen in summer and achieve next time. Right now we are nowhere near challenging. Finishing 14th is not progress. Finishing above 8th just missing the play offs will arguably be progress. Throwing in the towel in October and saying "well it's OK if we finish 14th", "in Tony we trust", etc. is just unforgivable.

"Rovers’ record of not coming from behind to win a game since April 2018 is now well known, while they haven’t won at Ewood when the opposition have scored since January 1." I knew the first stat but didn't realise the second one. Shocking ! Of course Tony's slate was wiped clean with the new season wasn't it.

Bell was a disgrace against QPR. Maybe you could say he wasn't prepared to come on because the Cunningham injury wasn't expected but that mentality is absolutely criminal for a so called professional. I can excuse his limited abilty as he is a 3rd division player and hasn't developed. I cannot excuse his poor attitude and lack of effort. Contract is up at the end of the season so needs to move on in January.

Don't be offended Duncan if I report your post merely for suggesting we play Bell. I realise he will play but 2 wrongs don't make a right.

That game against Man U where neither team tried to attack or get the ball. Both teams with 11 men in their own half passing it about running the clock down. Batty and Le Saux fighting whilst the world watched on TV.

Paul to answer your latest point without quoting. Apologies if you misunderstood. You got it now about renaming the product but also changing the format to pricing being equal for all. When I am talking about STs being outdated. I refer the the ST format. I the old days the well off had a ST in the Nuttall Street stand and the working man stood on the terraces. Keeping this old ST format is just not in keeping with the way people live their lives these days. Apart from us older generation). ? Ripping up the old format and changing to a membership model with fair pricing FOR ALL would be innovative and display leadership and bravery. Tweaking ST prices and coming up with mini season tickets (pricing shackled by the full ST price), as Stuart points out, will never achieve a single thing.