Yeah, 90% bravery and 10% ability scored that goal. That's what's sadly lacking at the moment. Guys like Moran are inspirational, you play better as an individual because of them. Young players especially. Don't forget the guy had played a career's worth of football before he came to Rovers.

With the best will in the world he's a 6 out of 10 manager, and that's on a good day. To get promoted out of this League you need an 8 of 10 manager at the least. We'll huff and puff for another season, win some - lose some, drift along flattering to deceive. Players will come and go. The same laid back attitude will permeate all sections of the club structure. Expecting to change the direction of travel without changing the guy who is steering the ship doesn't work in my experience.

He's certainly not performing at the moment. A good game from him is overdue.

" Seemingly " is the most relevant word in that post.

We'd three ex-Dingles playing in the same team for us back in the day - Blacklaw, Joyce, Connelly. I suppose Chaddy would have been boycotting a team like that.

I've struggled with his recruitment policy for a long while. It seems to be more about building a squad than actually building a team. I know it's a not an 11 man game anymore and having a strong bench is vital but I'd like to know what our best starting 11 is. Does Mowbray know ?

According to Mike Jackman's book McNamee played 27 league games out of a possible 29 in his first season. Second season 29 out of 46. Not too shabby, especially when he made all the difference in that first season. I'll have a look at Moran's record tomorrow but my memory of him is a very durable player.

When Rush was his heyday he was one of the first strikers to start the fashion for defending from the front. He was always on the move looked to intercept loose passes etc. Rhodes wouldn't do that when he was in his prime, he isn't going to do that now. It'd be like when Fred Pickering and John Byrom came back, they were past their best and playing on memories.

I was watching David Speedie on the Nostalgia thread. He was about 5' 8" on a good day and he could jump higher.

There's no way Dyche would come here, that tells you how far we've fallen.

I know the game is faster these days but back then the pitches were heavy going for at least half the season, the balls weighed a ton when they got wet, and the game was much, much more physical. When you consider that Matt's record was exceptional but I don't recall later centre halves - England, Hunter, Faz, Killer, Graham Hawkins, MacNammee, Kevin Moran, Hendrey etc missing many games.

He'd be OK alongside somebody like Ayala who's reputed to be a good header of the ball.

Yes, it's the same with players. Opposing fans don't bother booing our bad players, only the good ones.

Let's hope so seeing as how we need to score 3 to get a draw away from home some of the time. Until I've seen the new lads play a few games I wouldn't like to comment on their ability.

Exactly, we only have one striker who you can see getting 20 goals in a season and he's not at the races at the moment.

What are centre halves made of these days ? I was just looking up Matt Woods appearance stats for the 7 seasons he played for us - he played 26 out of 26, 48/48, 43/44, 50/51, 52/52, 43/52, 47/49. Then he retired ! Matt looked like he'd been cast in a foundry, not born, and he played like it. Both of Lenihan and Williams have had several times out with injury and now Ayala's gone the same way.

We also lost at Newcastle when we were " the better team ". There's a bit of a thread emerging here.

I've never seen him try to go around a goalkeeper yet in a straight on 1 on 1. If I know that so do all the keepers he's likely to come up against.

He's run his race for me. Nothing much will change with him in charge. If people are happy with that, fair enough.

If I'd a £ for every time I've heard " we were only undone by individual errors " during Mowbray's time here I'd be a fairly rich man. Winning managers evolve systems of play that are intended to eliminate individual errors. If that doesn't work they eliminate the players that regularly make mistakes and sign players that don't. We've never defended well as a unit, we fail to sense trouble coming until it happens. We've been easy to score against for too long. The word gets around in football, just keep it tight against Rovers and wait for the inevitable mistake or series of mistakes to come along, you'll get a good scoring chance. Until that situation is rectified we're going nowhere, unless it's down the table. Coventry will have watched our games and you don't need to be a genius to figure out how to play against us.

We just don't sense danger as a unit until it's too late.

These are the stats I'm more interested in - Tackles won, second balls won, contested headers won, interceptions, yards run. Get those stats better than your opponents and normally you'll get a result.

If it doesn't what are we paying him for ? I get the impression at Rovers there is no " buck ", we exist in a responsibility vacuum. The manager can make as many mistakes as he likes and we all know nothing will happen. Same with the players, certain players can phone in performances on a weekly basis and nothing happens.

I know a winning mentality when I see one in a team and we haven't had one for years. That's why we keep losing games like tonights game

Saturday's game is a must win now. Another loss and we'll be looking over our shoulders.