Not as nice as last season, but still better than the Teamwear shite Umbro and Nike used to provide.

You’d think so, considering how pretty much every Rovers player from first teamers to academy lads to the Ladies team get an article on there when they sign deals…

Out of practice, they need to get a game under their belts.

… and Etuhu… and Leon Best.

Since the dawn of time we must have played bloody awful in the first friendly, and every time fans get worried about it - but it really does mean absolutely nothing.

So? It was like all this the other week about ‘fans being up in arms if BB had signed a new deal in 2020’. The club either protects its assets and its balance sheet or it doesn’t, upset fans don’t come into it.

Whereas these days most walk out for feck all…

People have this impression that the ‘model’ the last few years is too buy cheap and sell high, but apart from AA when has it actually happened?

I thought he’d stopped because Darren called him (and by extension us) a saddo 😁

Why? Sunderland, Ipswich, Sheff Wed and a load more never have.

Jimmy is just a phenomenon, about to turn 40 and he is still top class. Looks in superb physical condition too. Broad, however, looks on his last legs to me…

They know that more and more of our fanbase lives outside of BB1 and BB2, their own ticket database will tell them that… yet we now do less to engage fans outside the town itself than ever before. We need Swag out the door ASAP before he does any more damage.

Test cricket has only ‘moved on’ in the last month. Despite nearly twenty years of Twenty20 cricket, it hadn’t impacted scoring rates that much in Test cricket. Look at Test scorecards from the past few years, 200/250 runs in 90 overs had still been standard fayre until BazBall. Stokes/McCullum are doing something revolutionary here, other sides will have to adapt to it quickly, though it will be interesting to see how it stands up to being tested on a spinning deck in India or down under.

A note to anybody that starts posts with ‘typical Rovers fans’ - Rovers fans as a whole are no different than any other club’s, brfcs is no different than any other forum.

I’d say keeping Kean on in summer 2012 was the main driver of the collapse, most clubs don’t come close to losing 40% of ST holders on relegation - we did! But yes, one bone headed, arrogant decision after another has got us into this mess.

*10,000

Is he a ‘Trembler’ though?

I’m not judging those two, at all. We’ve made no signings, we’ve played no games, so how can I judge them? Of course JDT will know we are short, half the Portugal camp was academy lads! I’m judging the higher echelons of the club, the actual power brokers, who, in my opinion, haven’t changed one iota, and the same old problems will soon rear their heads. But of course, hope springs eternal, and let’s see if GB is empowered to make the changes this club desperately needs.

I don’t particularly need to hear anything either way. ‘We aim to win as many games as we can, let’s see where it takes us’ would do for me. As that is a truism, you can only win as many games as the players and manager you have are capable of, if that means mid table, then fair enough. I don’t need to have my intelligence insulted when I hear ‘Premier League!’ and I’m looking at a squad of promoted academy lads, loans and signings from Crewe and Lincoln. I get the model that people think we have, or will have, but considering a load of talent has just walked out the door for nowt and we saw precious little of the AA money re-invested, I’ll take all this Brentford talk with a pinch of salt. My issue with all these models is that the club never truly commits to it. We have constantly changing personnel and structures, I hear a lot of talk from fans about how we are going to do ‘x, y and z’, ‘pathways’, ‘foreign markets’, the season then comes along and in come a load of loans and fairly average third division players at the last minute, that doesn’t scream a coherent ‘model’ to me. I see re-arranging of deck chairs on the Titanic, I.e. new people, new job titles, but the same mess further up the chain where actual decisions are made, and more wishful thinking and projection from fans assuming the club is far more strategic and functional than it is in reality, than any actual structural change at the club.

Maybe it is, we’ll soon find out. It’s the owners’ club, they can pursue what they want. But then need to stop all this silly talk about being a ‘sustainable Premier League club’, as that ain’t happening with a team of young lads.

What I would say is, TM was happy enough to have a steady Championship job, just rolling with it in the bizarre world of Venky’s, the convoluted structure, the middle men, whilst telling all and sundry how great the owners were - all just a buttering up exercise, as we saw when the toys, and truth, came out at the end. I don’t see a young, ambitious manager like JDT having the patience for it. So the club has to have actually changed, not just window dressing. I’ve seen 12 years of this, so I’ve seen these re-sets, new dawns, supposed new structures before, and I’m not convinced that fundamentally anything has, or indeed can, change with these owners. I hope I’m wrong as boy does this club need a rocket up it, and I’d love JDT to be the man to ignite it all, but my doubts still remain that the football people at the club will be given the tools to succede in a highly competitive division, if that’s ‘negative’, then so be it!

Aye I was there, remember talking to some Charlton fans after the game saying ‘he’d taken them as far as he can’… well, they weren’t wrong.

Indeed. TM was obviously happy enough to operate on VenkyTime, where such a convoluted sign off structure leads to inevitable delays and targets going begging. I doubt JDT will have the patience for it.

Oh I see, it’s a reciprocation thing. Yeah easy enough for Swag to agree to when Reading bring one man and his dog up here.