Thats our valuation, not the markets valuation, as I said. No, that’s your valuation. If the only bid you get for your car that’s up for sale is £50, which you don’t think is enough, then your personal valuation is higher than it’s market value.

Let me try this another way: If Ipswich are the only club seemingly in world football interested and their max bid is £8,500,00 … that means his value is £8,500,000. We can all debate his value to Rovers, or in comparison to other players fees or what we think they should be paying. But the market dictates his value. This will go south very quickly if we don’t agree terms soon and at that point I don’t blame Szmodics one bit. The difference with Gestede? He threw his toys out and refused to play after about 48 hours because he wanted his payday. Sammie is still playing and scoring after about 4 weeks.

If he moves to Ipswich he’s going to be rich beyond his wildest dreams. At 29, he will never get this opportunity again. I’ll eat my hat if he doesn’t get the move, I don’t care what anyone says about his attitude if he hasn’t moved in 2 weeks he will force one. And rightfully so.

Yeah, maybe. Maybe he’s thought: I could earn three times more money, play at the highest level in English football and as a father to a young daughter, be 20 minutes away from my family. Then one Saturday he woke up and thought: Actually, we’ve just beaten Derby 4-2. Despite there being no money, major uncertainty and no progress, I’ll stay here.

16 points. Qualifies and it’s just a bit of paperwork to open up an ESC spot.

Siggy now qualifies for a permit with 14/15 points - so the concept of us selling him to open an ESC spot simply doesn’t make sense. If we need to open an ESC spot we just need to prove Sigurdsson now qualifies and get him a permit.

Whether we have Batth, McFazean or Paulo Maldini playing centre back we need a new keeper. Pears - who’s signing I still question as the son of a mate of Mowbray - was shit when he arrived, shit last season and will continue to be shit this season. He’s shown glimpses of being capable but the inevitable fuck up is always just around the corner. Hell, I’d sell him if someone would pay us any sort of money and try to find two keepers.

He’s only 21.

If Wharton would have stayed the club would be bankrupt by now

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I’m sure Weimann played left wing back the last two seasons.

They’re not playing him or letting him train with the group because they can’t afford for him to get injured. Ipswich aren’t increasing their bid because they’re the only interested party and know we need to sell him. I believe they call that checkmate.

As I said on the latest BRFCS podcast (available here for your audio pleasure), the 'six signings in a week' has turned the 'deadline day generation' into thinking this window is a success. Lets be clear: its four signings (plus one U23 player and one contract renewal) and two returning loans (Buckley, Travis) with outgoings from January of: Sam Gallagher Semir Telalovic Leo Wahlstedt John Fleck Jake Garrett A. Wharton Niall Ennis Yasin Ayari Andrew Moran Ben Chrisene Billy Koumetio Whether these 11 players where any good or not is beside the point. Tony Mowbray, Jon Dahl Tomasson and John Eustace have ALL said the squad is stretched. All of these players need replacing with either educated, well thought our recruitment or established Championship players. The idea that we've had a good window or improved the squad is nonsensical. You cannot just keep removing first team players and promoting youth.

Without wanting to speak on behalf of OldJam… The Trust have over time said time and time again posts on here (or other social media platforms) aren’t official responses from The Trust and are instead views of individuals. Official comms from the Trust come from the We Are The Rovers BRFCS account. They’re under no obligation to post here because not everyone here is a member. Although as many of us are - myself included - realistically the statements are best published by them here because they’ll make their way here regardless. Speaking as the BRFCS owner, I’m grateful The Trust maintain a presence on BRFCS and I think it’s wise they do as we have the largest Rovers active ‘membership’ (ie posters/viewers/active accounts). Should The Trust (or any other supporters group) ask BRFCS for attendance at meetings or opinion on ideas they’ll always get it, but we will say our true opinions and summarise the mood of our ‘membership’ whether that is what people want to hear or not. I would hope (and understand this is the case) The Trust appreciates that and given historically there’s been ‘bad relations’ between the numerous different supporters groups - which served no purpose other than unnecessary division - I personally feel it’s necessary.

Correct. Although Vale has proven himself to not be capable at this level. So replacing and unknown player with a known incapable player isn’t wise.

You can’t just wipe someone from history, Eddie. Whether he was good enough or not he was here and he was an option that needs replacing. Him being an option the manager chose not to use is on budget and recruitment.

The latter question is the exact opposite of how to deal with them, in my experience of discussions with Waggott. He will ramble on for 15 minutes about how they’ve made multiple attempts, mention 8th and 7th place finishes, talk about how football has changed and how it could have been different if (insert injury, or bad decision, or non signing) hadn’t have happened and before you know it he’s talking about something completely off subject and you cant get back to the point.

And perhaps more importantly: “Suhail, you have previously accepted that your knowledge of football is limited. Who has told you that <insert decision here> is a good idea?”

I’m not sure you can have a chair at a supporters meeting, like you say, it won’t work. If the question isn’t answered you simply reply: “I don’t feel like that answers my question, could you please expand/confirm/go into more detail.” and sit and wait. It’s basic interview technique, ask a simple and straight forward question, then let the other person speak. Of course, that’s why anyone from BRFCS would be there. They’re not inviting me because we’re friends! To be fair, with notice we’d probably send @Herbie6590.

If BRFCS is invited to this supporters consultation - much like at the earlier meeting - I'll be respectful and dignified but won't shy away from asking hard questions and pressing until there's an answer.

If they're both attending consultation meetings then its on the supporters to push for the questions and if they're not answered keep pushing.

If there’s clear communication at least the fans will be able to understand the full picture. As it stands there’s so much rumour and hearsay, because they don’t communicate even the basics. I agree with the Trust here, it’s the biggest issue.

“the Owners are committed to continue to fund any losses of Blackburn Rovers for the coming season” This feels like a change in tone @Miller11, usually it’s “continued support for the future” or similar. Was that the impression you got?

I make it 15:37 as we speak and as yet I haven't been e-mailed the meeting notes @Miller11 ... if they're being released any later than 16:00, I hope your family don't intend on speaking to you tonight 😅

Brilliant post. If WATR, or another other supporters group, gets access to Suhail and doesn't treat the meeting with respect then it'll be the last one. You can be critical and demand change without being a cock.